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New Age Religion

Updated on March 18, 2015
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James Watkins is an entrepreneur, musician and writer. James enjoys people, music, film, and books. He is a lifelong student of history.

INTRODUCTION

The New Age Movement is a religion that denies being a Religion: A set of beliefs and values about the origin, nature, and purpose of man and the world in which he finds himself.

All human beings are religious, by which I mean, all have a "worldview"—a lens or framework that includes morality through which each individual perceives the world and that shapes what they think about everything.

New Age Religion is an admixture of astrology, psychology, pantheism, paganism, the occult, and Gnosticism, combined with a mysticism drawn from Eastern Religions. It is purposefully confusing so as to avoid refutation, admitting to no doctrine but that each person can create his own personal religion and reality. The idea is supposed to include a brotherhood of unity but involves no community, as that would require organization—the dreaded "organized religion."

New Age refers to the Age of Aquarius. It promises a false utopia through a religious and cultural movement that will unify the human race by removing all barriers. It identifies that which divides people as religion, morality, color, gender, economic disparity, and nationality. Therefore, these things must be eliminated, to be replaced by a New World Order.

NEW AGE
NEW AGE

The Age of Aquarius

Astrologers believe that the Age of Pisces—what they term 'the Christian age'—has drawn to a close, and that the astrological Age of Aquarius has begun. Each astrological age of about 2,146 years is named according to one of the signs of the Zodiac. Astrologers think each Age has its own cosmic energies. The energy in Pisces made it an era of wars and conflicts, but Aquarius! This is to be an era of harmony, justice, peace, and unity on the earth. Some reckon that the Age of Aries was the time of the Jewish religion; the Age of Pisces that of Christianity; and Aquarius will usher in a new religion to replace all older (antiquated) beliefs.

So, the New Age necessitates a New Age Religion, one that denies the universal claims of the Christian Faith, while making universal claims of its own. But little in New Age Religion is actually new. Much of it can be traced to Gnostic groups that formed in the early days of Christianity, and to even earlier Pagan or Eastern religions.

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"FRACTAL VISIONARY DIGITAL ART 02" BY JACK HAAS

The New Paradigm

New Age Religion rejects a personal God—and it rejects the very word "religious" in favor of "spiritual." Darwinist evolutionary theory is used to show that religion, too, is evolving towards a higher plane. It declares that all religions were paths to the same destination and all contained an equal but incomplete part of the Truth. The New Age Movement promotes a vision of the future where there will be a planetary spirituality—and planetary political institutions. This is nothing less than a wholesale transformation of human perspective, to develop a completely new understanding of reality, known as "New Age Truth." This involves the creation of a new global paradigm (the entire constellation of beliefs and values shared by the members of a given community). Competing paradigms cannot co-exist and must be eliminated.

The New Paradigm involves a flight from Reason. It includes a more androgynous view of the world, and furthermore, even a running away from the dominance of masculinity and patriarchy to a celebration of femininity. The New Age Movement is decidedly feminine, and since intuition is feminine and Reason is masculine, the New Age is to be lived on the level of feelings, emotions, and instincts. Competition is frowned upon, and the very idea of winners and losers held to be contemptible. The Mother Earth is to be worshiped as divine in place of God the Father.

THE NEW AGE MOVEMENT
THE NEW AGE MOVEMENT

The New Age Movement

One of the most common elements in New Age “spirituality” is a fascination with extraordinary manifestations, especially paranormal entities that can be reached by “mediums” and through “channeling.” The counselors from the spirit world include many levels of guides, beings, and energies. These manifestations are indeed spiritual (otherworldly), but despite the language of love and light that is almost always used by them, they are not from God.

There is no distinction between good and evil in the New Paradigm. Human actions are seen as the fruit of either illumination or ignorance. Hence we cannot condemn anyone, and nobody needs forgiveness. Believing in the existence of evil is to be shunned as "negative thinking" and "negative thinkers" are to be avoided at all costs. So much for being open-minded, another contradictory New Age claim to fame.

While some New Agers believe in reincarnation, all dispense with the notion of Hell and scoff at the idea of any Judgment of us by the Supreme Being. One of the key ideas is that there is no real difference between the Creator and His creatures. Man, nature, spirit, matter—all are the same thing. Here we see the Pantheism that pervades all New Age thought and practice.

MADAME BLAVATSKY
MADAME BLAVATSKY
THE GOD OF THE NEW AGE
THE GOD OF THE NEW AGE
SATAN'S MISTRESS
SATAN'S MISTRESS

New Age Religion

The current strain of New Age Religion can be traced to Helena Blavatsky, a Russian medium who founded the Theosophical Society in New York in 1875. The stated goal: "To form a nucleus of the Universal Brotherhood of Humanity, without distinction of race, creed, caste or color," and "reject the 'irrational bigotry' and 'sectarianism' of traditional Christianity."

Mrs. Blavatsky attacked the “male” God of Judaism, of Christianity and of Islam, in the name of the emancipation of women. She urged people to practice feminine virtues and worship the mother-goddess of Hinduism. Her successor was Annie Besant, who was in the vanguard of the feminist movement. Wicca and “women's spirituality” carry on this struggle against “patriarchal” Christianity today.

Also influential in the formation of New Age Religion have been the teachings of Rudolf Steiner's anthroposophy and Alice Bailey's “Arcane School.” Far from not believing in the supernatural, these folks erected a set of exalted beings they claimed to be in contact with: the Great White Brotherhood of mahatmas. Esotericism—access to a supposedly ancient and hidden body of knowledge available only to initiated groups—is part and parcel of the movement. New Agers believe in Evolution—that living beings evolve towards superior life forms—to the point of believing that human beings are not the end of the evolutionary chain but simply a stepping stone to a higher creature yet to come, just as was the ape.

The Human Potential Movement was developed at the Esalen Institute in California in the 1960s. Strongly influenced by Carl Jung and Oriental Religions, it intertwined psychology and spirituality by utilizing meditation, parapsychology, and the use of hallucinogenic drugs to achieve "mystical peak experiences" of fusion with God and the cosmos. From this came the idea that not only are humans capable of ascending to invisible higher spheres, we can even control our own lives beyond death through untapped powers in our minds. What New Age techniques such as sensory isolation, holotropic breathing, hypnosis, and mantras really do is create an atmosphere of psychic weakness and vulnerability to the powers of darkness.

"CENTER FOR THE NEW AGE" IN SEDONA, ARIZONA
"CENTER FOR THE NEW AGE" IN SEDONA, ARIZONA
CENTER FOR THE NEW AGE
CENTER FOR THE NEW AGE

ANTICHRIST

The New Age Movement agrees with Friedrich Nietzsche that Christianity has stunted the full flowering of humanity. Perfection means achieving self-fulfillment, according to an order of values which we ourselves create and which we achieve by our own strength. This exaltation of the self—at bottom a rebellion against sexual morality—overturns the correct relationship between Creator and creature, and one of its extreme forms is Satanism.

In order to deprecate the Christian Faith—the ultimate purpose of the New Age Movement—it must be preached that Jesus of Nazareth was not the Christ, but simply one among many Christs among historical personages, such as Buddha, for one example, through whom wisdom has been revealed.

New Agers specifically deny the anthropological vision of the Bible, in which human beings are at the center of the world and considered to be qualitatively superior to other natural forms of life. New Age Religionists tell us that there is no such thing as Sin—in particular no Sexual Sin. This is powerfully attractive to those who wish to justify their sexual immorality.

In New Age Religion there is no need for Revelation or Salvation from outside yourself. You only need to use Yoga, Zen, Transcendental Meditation, tantric exercises, biofeedback, crystals, or transpersonal psychology to reach the "cosmic consciousness" of the Universal Mind, which is nothing more than your very own Higher Self. It's all about you, baby!

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NEW AGE RELIGION
THE HOLY TABLE OF THE OCCULT
THE HOLY TABLE OF THE OCCULT
SATAN'S HENCHMEN
SATAN'S HENCHMEN
"PHILOSOPHY OF THE NEW AGE MOVEMENT" BY MARK PLAIN
"PHILOSOPHY OF THE NEW AGE MOVEMENT" BY MARK PLAIN
CHAKRAS
CHAKRAS

New Age Terms

Esalen is a community founded in Big Sur, California, in 1962 by Michael Murphy and Richard Price, whose main aim was to arrive at self-realization through nudism and visions produced by consuming copious amounts of psychedelic drugs.

Feng-shui is a form of geomancy, a Chinese occult method of deciphering the hidden presence of positive and negative currents in buildings and other places, on the basis of a knowledge of earthly and atmospheric forces.

Findhorn is a holistic farming community started by Peter and Eileen Caddy in Scotland in 1965 on a quest for universal consciousness, with the goal of harmony with nature, and the vision of a transformed world. It claims to be in contact with extraterrestrials and built a landing strip for them.

Monism is the metaphysical belief that differences between beings are illusory.

Neopaganism is the concept (believed by Hitler, for one) that whatever preceded Christianity is more genuine to the spirit of the land, more in touch with the powers of nature. It is usually matriarchal and magical.

Occultism is simply involving oneself with the occult (hidden knowledge revealed by evil entities). Examples include necromancy, divination, palm reading, stargazing, soothsaying, Tarot Card reading, crystal ball gazing, fortune telling, sorcery, wizardry, voodoo, séances, spell casting, witchcraft, clairvoyance, horoscopes, and black magic. The popularity of these evil arts in the New Age Movement is not surprising since all are expressly condemned in the Bible. (Some might add chakras, amulets, good luck charms, tattoos, and body piercing to this list.)

Parapsychology can include extrasensory perception, mental telepathy, telekinesis, ghosts, and poltergeists.

Planetary Consciousness is a world-view developed in the 1980s to foster loyalty to the community of humanity rather than to nations, to be a "Citizen of the World," to favor a One World Government and the end to all borders.

Reincarnation means that death is nothing but the passage of the soul from one body to another.

Rosicrucians are Western occultists involved in alchemy, astrology, and cabbalistic concepts. The Rosicrucian Fellowship contributed mightily to the revival of astrology in the 20th century.

Shamanism involves practices and beliefs linked to communication with the spirits of nature and the spirits of dead people through ritualized possession (by the spirits) of a shaman, who serves as a medium.

Spiritualism is about contacting the spirits of the dead through a medium. Madame Blavatsky was a medium, and so spiritualism had a great influence on the Theosophical Society. Allan Kardec was influential in the spread of spiritualism in Afro-Brazilian religions.

Theosophy is an ancient term linked to Greek Gnostics and Neoplatonists.

Transcendentalism was a 19th century movement of writers and thinkers in New England who touted the superiority of insight over logic and experience for revelation of the deepest truths. The chief figure was Ralph Waldo Emerson, who moved away from orthodox Christianity through Unitarianism and integrated concepts from Hinduism.

Wicca is an Old English term for witches who practice ritual magic. Wicca was reinvented in England by Gerald Gardner in 1939. Sometimes simply called "the Craft," it has grown more popular since the 1960s.

THE NEW AGE RELIGION
THE NEW AGE RELIGION
"HE THAT WARRETH" BOOK COVER
"HE THAT WARRETH" BOOK COVER
NEW AGE RELIGION
NEW AGE RELIGION
THE OCCULT
THE OCCULT

Christian Response to New Age Religion

According to the orthodox Christian Faith, God came down into human history during the Incarnation, in the person of Jesus. Eternity entered into time. The real "cosmic Christ" is the one who is presently active in the various members of His body, which is His Church. Christians are blessed by the loving care of a personal God. Rather than seeking impersonal cosmic powers, they choose to focus on the real historical Jesus, in particular on the meaning of His crucifixion and resurrection.

For those in the True Faith, spiritual life is a relationship with God that gradually becomes deeper through His grace, and in the process teaches us about proper relationship with our fellow man. Conversion is turning back to the Father, through the Son, to eliminate infatuation with ourselves and overcome habitual sin. Christian prayer is not an exercise in self-contemplation, stillness and self-emptying, but a dialogue of love, a flight from 'self' to the 'You' of God. It leads to an increasingly complete surrender to God's will, which in turn brings the joy and peace of soul for which we all long.

By revealing Himself to man in His written Word, the Bible, God wishes to render us capable of responding to him, of knowing him, and of loving him far beyond our own natural capacity. Besides praying for others, prayer includes three parts: expressing thankfulness to God for all blessings we have received, while acknowledging Him as our God; expressing sorrow for our personal sins and asking forgiveness (which is always granted to the contrite of heart); and asking Him to shine a light on our path so we might walk straight according to His purpose for our lives.

Sin can be best defined as "an offense against God." Therefore, only God can reconcile us to Himself. In the divine plan of salvation, Christ Jesus is the one mediator of redemption. This salvation of which I speak is not an experience of self, a meditative and intuitive dwelling within oneself, but the forgiveness of sin, being lifted out of profound ambivalences in oneself and the calming of nature by the gift of communion with a loving God. The way to salvation is not found simply in a self-induced transformation of consciousness, but in a liberation from sin and its consequences which then leads us to struggle against sin in ourselves and in the society around us.

It is by studying the Bible that we come to understand the reality of sin, and how to clearly recognize sin when we see it. No longer do we attempt to explain it away as merely a developmental flaw, a psychological weakness, or the predictable consequence of an inadequate social structure. Only through understanding God's plan for man can we fully grasp what sin is: An abuse of the freedom that God gives to created persons of Free Will, so they might be capable of loving Him and truly loving one another.

Sin is an offense against what is good, noble, and true. It is caused by a lack of genuine love for God and your neighbors that displays itself as selfishness. Sin is thus self-idolatry, loving yourself (and created things) more than you love God your Creator.

Anything that promotes conceptual confusion or prides itself on secrecy needs to be very carefully scrutinized. It hides rather than reveals the ultimate nature of reality. It corresponds to the post-modern loss of confidence in bold certainties. It is crystallized in Jung's theory that the human being is a gateway from the outer world into an inner world of infinite dimensions, where each person is Abraxas, who gives birth to his own world or devours it. Our personal responsibility to God for our actions is replaced with a sense of duty to the cosmos, thus overturning the true concept of sin and our need for redemption through Christ.

ASTROLOGY AND THE OCCULT
ASTROLOGY AND THE OCCULT
OCCULT SIGNS & SYMBOLS
OCCULT SIGNS & SYMBOLS
SATAN IS THE LORD OF NEW AGE RELIGION
SATAN IS THE LORD OF NEW AGE RELIGION
THE PENTAGRAM IS THE SYMBOL OF SATAN
THE PENTAGRAM IS THE SYMBOL OF SATAN

CONCLUSION

Loneliness is the scourge of postmodern life. The human spirit longs for religious meaning in a time dominated by the godless public religion of Secular Humanism. There is a certain allure to a religion that promises to satisfy your spiritual longings but requires no faith and no morals, especially one that presents itself as having secret knowledge that leads to "enlightenment," "illumination," spiritual self-fulfillment, and so-called self-realization. One cannot help but notice the prevalence of the word "Self" in all New Age writings.

It is also significant that the New Age Movement has enjoyed enormous success in an era that exalts diversity. Western culture has taken a step beyond tolerance—in the sense of grudging acceptance or putting up with the idiosyncrasies of a person or a minority group—to a conscious erosion of respect for normality. Normality is presented as a morally loaded concept, linked necessarily with absolute norms. For a growing number of people, absolute beliefs or norms indicate nothing but an inability to tolerate other people's views and convictions.

The New Age Movement is populated with strange and exotic beings, masters, adepts, and extraterrestrials. It has become home to psychic powers and occult mysteries, conspiracies and hidden teachings. It is ironic to even call it “new” when so many of its ideas have been taken from ancient religions and cultures. New Age Religion appears similar to Buddhism but only on the surface because New Agers do not practice self-denial.

New Age literature is shot through with the conviction that there is no divine being “out there,” or a God who is in any real way distinct from the rest of reality. Spirituality in New Age terms means letting one's individuality sink into the great ocean of Being. These beliefs, drawn from Gnosticism, in cosmic powers and some obscure kind of destiny precludes the possibility of a relationship with the personal God revealed in Christ. New Age truth is about good vibrations, cosmic correspondences, harmony and ecstasy, and generally pleasant experiences.

To the New Age Movement, all religions are the expression of the same inner reality. Therefore, the death of Jesus on the cross must be denied or re-interpreted. That is why we see phony writings such as the neo-Gnostic gospels fraudulently elevated to seeming authenticity by New Age writers such as Elaine Pagels and Dan Brown.

Both cosmic unity and reincarnation are irreconcilable with the Christian belief that a human person is a distinct being, who lives one life, for which he or she is fully responsible. The New Age will be peopled by perfect, androgynous beings who are totally in command of the cosmic laws of nature. In this scenario, Christianity has to be eliminated and give way to a global religion and a new world order.

It must never be forgotten that many of the movements which have fed the New Age are explicitly anti-Christian. Their stance towards Christianity is not neutral, but neutralizing: despite what is often said about openness to all religious standpoints, traditional Christianity is not sincerely regarded as an acceptable alternative.

Western Civilization is by far the crowning achievement of the Human race. Its foundation rests on the fact that there is a difference between male and female; up and down; yes and no; right and wrong; good and evil; real and ideal; relative and absolute; sacred and profane; finite and infinite; human and divine. New Agers see this as a tragic view of the world, a divided world that they hope to bring together in unity through the fusion of body and soul; male and female; spirit and matter; earth and cosmos; religion and science; human and divine. To them, life is not at all about being a servant of God and a servant to your fellow man—as was taught and exemplified by Christ Jesus—but all about your personal growth. It's all about you!

My primary source for this Hub is JESUS CHRIST: THE BEARER OF THE WATER OF LIFE

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      mours sshields 4 years ago from Elwood, Indiana

      Interesting. A lot of people are into this New Age thing! It's a shame.

      Marcia Ours

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      Dave McClure 4 years ago from Kyle, Scotland

      Where I agree with you (and with Chesterton) is: 'When man stops believing in God , he doesn't believe in nothing - he believes in anything'. New Age is mere mumbo-jumbo. Where I disagree with you (and our friend GK) is in the notion that traditional Christianity constitutes 'the truth'. It was effective as a form of control but that is not reason enough to defend it where reason disallows it. We had to break free, even if we were not intellectually equipped for freedom.

      Happy Hallowe'en ;)

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      Petra Vlah 4 years ago from Los Angeles

      More than just interesting - it is informative, well written and well documented. I, for one, believe that New Age is the first step in a new direction and a much needed one. As we all know, religious beliefs have resulted in more human victims than all natural disasters combined. It is time to look for alternatives that include ALL humans and not just some

      New Age emphasizes the connection of mind, body and sole considering all aspects of human life and giving it a chance to better one's destiny without an imposition (faith limited to a specific religion), so I am all for it. By no means, that will exclude the existence of God, but it simply imply that God is ONE and IS for ALL

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      WillStarr 4 years ago from Phoenix, Arizona

      The God of Abraham has been around for thousands of years, and all sorts of people have documented His acts through the centuries, so I'm always amazed when people reject Him as a 'fairy tale' and then adhere to something goofy and new which requires far, far more faith than believing in the Lord and His Son.

      We have just such a friend, and believe me, she's a real lulu!

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      mours ssheilds— Marcia Ours~! Thank you for being my very first visitor. I appreciate your comments, my dear friend.

      James :D

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      Audrey Hunt 4 years ago from Nashville Tn.

      I've learned some things I didn't realize about New Age Religion. Thanks for this well written and highly informative hub James. New Age is very popular - but not with this kid.

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      James, Read this from start to finish. I completely understand what the New Age philosophy now is. But, I question its core. To say, "I don't like the old so I'll create a new" is easily done. Yet, is there a God that says, "Do it and see what happens" in waiting? I don't like the religious wars that history, past or present, have wrought. Yet, we're not voting for a President here. It's like we're shopping for clothing that fits the style instead of believing in God. Can't see it, and really don't think I want to. Very informative, thought provoking, and well presentated hub. Up & Interesting

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Paraglider— And a belated Happy Hallowe'en to you, kind sir.

      I appreciate the visitation and your fine comments. I see that we agree on some points and disagree on others. I suppose that is to be expected, my friend. Thank you for reading my article.

      James :D

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Petra Vlah— Hello! It is a pleasure to hear from you again. It has been a while since we have interacted. I am glad to see that you are still involved in the HubPages Community.

      Thank you very much for taking the time to read my article. I appreciate your comments, too. Well said. :)

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      WillStarr— I just love your thoughtful, insightful, and brilliantly superb remarks, my friend. You brought a broad smile to my face. Like this one— :D

      Well sir, you know I appreciate the visit. Thank you for reading my work here.

      James

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      vocalcoach— You are quite welcome, my dear. I am well pleased to have been of some service. Thank you very much for the gracious compliments. :-)

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      rcrumple— Thank you very much for taking the time to read my latest article, brother. And I appreciate you becoming my newest Facebook friend, too. :)

      I am grateful to you for the 'Voted Up and Interesting,' as well as your kind compliments. I enjoyed reading your excellent comments. You made some outstanding points, my friend.

      God Bless You!

      James

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      Chris Merritt 4 years ago from Pendleton, Indiana

      The Holy Bible tells us that we are to make sure that if our family spiritually disintegrates, it is not a result of us abandoning our role as a spiritual leader. That is why I cling to the scripture “As for Me and My House We Will Serve the Lord”…I cannot control how other choose to believe, but I have an obligation to my family that the Lord entrusted to me.

      It has become so much easier to live this life on our “own” rules, and ignore a very simple plan that God gave us. I have fallen into this trap throughout my life from time to time. I always find myself drawn to that inner voice that God has given to me.

      This is such a powerful hub James, and as always so very well written. Thank you brother for standing firm and telling it like it is.

      Chris

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      Silva Hayes 4 years ago from Spicewood, Texas

      Fascinating read. I will come back and read it again. Voted Up and Interesting. Thanks, James.

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      TheManWithNoPants 4 years ago from Tucson, Az.

      Fantastic James. As I got deeper into Theology, I got deeper too. I came to a very simple conclusion. My education in Divinity gave me the ability to explain things I couldn't understand. Jesus gave me the ability to understand the things I couldn't explain. That appears a little off subject, but here's the thing ...

      For some people, the importance of faith gets lost in their effort to make Biblical teaching line up with their intellectual reasoning which is inferrior to God's. In theological debates, I've found that as I over come the scientific and intellectual concerns, it drives them to parallel universe, space seeding, and mud baby logic. It becomes so much more bizzar than a simple "Living Loving God" that it makes you wonder what true intellect really is.

      There's an old saying ... "There ain't no athiests in a fox hole under fire", and I can tell you from first hand experience that it's true. When the bullets are flying, it gets real simple and Buda's just another fat guy. I'd better shut up. This is YOUR hub. It's just that I get so wrapped up in the political thing, that it's good to pull my head out and focus on what's really important once in a while.

      Great job my friend.

      ~ jim

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      Thomas Silvia 4 years ago from Massachusetts

      Hi James great hub and very informative, it is such a shame to see people joining this New Age Religion. Has Jesus once said " They can be led astray like sheep. "

      Vote up and more !!! SHARING !

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      Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      Hello James. This is a very important hub. Many people do not understand the connection between the New Age Religion and the New World Order. Both are against Christians. So what will happen if you refuse to join the New Age Religion?

      Voted up.

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      grumpiornot 4 years ago from South Africa

      Fascinating, as always! Quite apart from right or wrong, and personal choice...

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      CoauthorU 4 years ago from Inland Northwest, USA

      Great read, informative and well said voted up. I will definitely be back to read it again, and comment more.

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      Hxprof 4 years ago from Clearwater, Florida

      You've done a great job with this topic. It's a topic that interests me greatly because I believe American Christians are seeing the results of embracing some of this New Age Religion without our realizing it. Thus we've embraced "the doctrines of men and demons" as they've been secretly, insidiously introduced into our churches.

      There's so much here James. I may come back to comment later if time and energy allow.

      Voted up, interesting and useful!

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      Dianna Mendez 4 years ago

      James, you have presented a well written and researched article on the New Age religion. It is growing in popularity, and as you stated, loneliness is the driver. I applaud your efforts and how you presented this material so that there is no question as to how it originated. God bles you.

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      Shikinah 4 years ago from UK

      The New Age religion is in fact the recycled religion of ancient Babylon. Which is very sneakily being introduced into the Christian church. Churches are now opening their halls to fund raising days, allowing Reiki healers, crystal healers, meditation and so forth.

      This first began when the second ever "Parliament of the World's Religions" met in Chicago from August 28 to September 5, 1993, "to promote and encourage religious tolerance and interfaith cooperation."

      The parliament included 6,000 representatives from all the world's major religions, including the major branches of Christianity. (Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Protestant) Baha'i, Buddhist, Confucian, Hindu, Jain, Jewish, Muslim, Native American, Shinto, Sikh, Taoist, Unitarian, Zoroastrian and others.

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      CMerritt— Yes, you are so right about your role as the father of your family to lead by Godly example and raise up your children to walk along the right path. I am awfully sorry to say that I was a miserable failure in that regard.

      The spirit of this world gives people such strong but false notions of what brings lasting happiness. It makes living by God's rules appear boring and stifling while in fact, if we really thought about it, if the whole world lived according to biblical principles there would be no war, violence, sexual abuse, child abuse, molestation, homosexual behaviors, divorce, adultery, broken homes, assault, theft, murder, etc. etc. etc.

      It would be a truly wonderful world.

      Thank you, Chris, for reading my work. I sincerely appreciate your keen insights, as well as your gracious compliments. And you are most welcome.

      James

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Silva Hayes— You are quite welcome. Thank you very much for the 'voted up and interesting.' I appreciate the visitation. :)

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      TheManWithNoPants— Hey Jim! It is great to see you here, my friend. I hope all is going well on the political front for you. Who do you think will win Tuesday? It might be pretty close.

      Thank you for the awesome accolades. I think you remained straight on topic. I love this that you wrote:

      "Jesus gave me the ability to understand the things I couldn't explain."

      Amen!

      Yes, Brother: "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts ( Isaiah 55:8-9; KJV).

      I surely appreciate your extraordinary remarks. Brilliant! God Bless You.

      James

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      kashmir56— Hello! Thank you ever much for sharing this article with your circle of friends. That means so much to me. That is high praise indeed.

      I appreciate the visit and your kind comments. I am grateful to you for the "voted up and more!"

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Michele Travis— Hello there, my friend. As a matter of fact, I have a Hub about the "New World Order" in the pipeline. There is, as you wisely noted, a definite connection.

      It is always a pleasure to hear from you. I will be over soon to check out your latest writings. In the meanwhile, I appreciate your excellent comments and the voted up. Thanks for coming.

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      grumpiornot— Thank you!! Thank you very much! :D

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      CoauthorU— Thank you for taking the time to read my work. I appreciate the laudations and the voted up.

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      Tamarajo 4 years ago from Southern Minnesota

      I unfortunately become entangled in the New Age through a counselor in my prodigal years. Your article does well to describe the underlying philosophies and origins of this false yet pervasive movement.

      The counselor used Bible verses and encouraged us to make Jesus our spirit guide if that was what we believed...sounded good to me at the time. I was led out when I decided to open my Bible and read a verse that said "beware of those wearing a form of godliness but denying the power therereof" I knew I was in the wrong place and headed back home to my roots of true faith.

      The language and philosophy of this movement has infiltrated just about every area of our culture and society beginning in preschool using such techniques as visualization and yoga.

      A couple of key things that I am glad you brought out in your article can be seen in many false religions is a female kind of hierarchy and avoidance of the issue of personal sin. I think that is why Christianity is so offensive to some because it requires us to take the good hard difficult look at our condition without God and how much that cost to restore us to Him.

      I found your article very thorough and informative.

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      Suzette Walker 4 years ago from Taos, NM

      This is an interesting and informative article, Jim. This is very thought provoking. I guess I have not run into any New Age Religion yet. I must be living in a cave. LOL I know that psychology and psychiatry have invaded just about social program we have. Thanks for the heads up to this type of 'thinking' that is assimilating into our culture.

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      Shikinah 4 years ago from UK

      James I forgot to say thank you for such an informative article on the New Age.. I have a deep loathing for it, as I have lost many friends to this sinister religion, with my self being saved because of a certain scripture I remembered from the bible. I can not underestimate the wickedness which is aloud to masquerade as love and light. The saddest thing is, is that it is seen as holistic healing or just getting in touch with our inner self.

      I have since done some research and have come to realise that this will be the "Great Apostasy " which the bible speaks about, how the Christian

      church will prostitute herself with mysticism, by mixing the teachings of

      Christ Jesus with that of eastern religions and the likes all in the name of "good will" & "peace and security"...The New Age is so sinister because they actually use the word christ, knowing fully well it is not the Christ of the bible but their long awaited maitreya. We are more than blessed to know the truth, and have the veil of deceit lifted from our eyes, so that we may see the glorious news about the true christ in all it's glory.

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Hxprof— Thank you for the "Voted up, interesting and useful!" I appreciate the visit and your kind compliments, my friend. I am glad this topic is of great interest to you. I love your comments, especially this:

      "American Christians are seeing the results of embracing some of this New Age Religion without our realizing it. Thus we've embraced "the doctrines of men and demons" as they've been secretly, insidiously introduced into our churches."

      Amen Brother!!

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      teaches12345— I am impressed by, and I enjoyed, your insightful, thoughtful remarks. I am grateful for the applause, your compliments, and your blessings.

      Thank you for this visitation. It is always good to 'see' you. :-)

      James

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Shikinah— Thank you very much for your extraordinary comments. I can say that it is an honor for me to receive remarks on my Hub from a person of your level of discernment and comprehension. In particular, it is great that you called attention to the 1993 "Parliament of World Religions" in Chicago.

      This has seemingly wonderful idea behind it of presenting all religions of the world as equals. But will they include Carthage, who threw live babies into furnaces to please Molech, or the Aztecs, who sacrificed human beings to their devil god after ripping the living heart out first?

      The thing is, Jesus is not in competition with any of these religions. Buddhism is more of a philosophy than a religion and it is atheistic. The Hindus have millions of gods. Moses and Mohammed claimed to be God's representatives. Jesus said He IS God. They are not declaring for the same prize so they can be many things but equal is not one of them.

      I sincerely appreciate your contributions to this conversation. Well said!

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Tamarajo— Thank you very much for taking the time to read my article, my friend. I appreciate you sharing your story with us. Concrete testimony is also more moving than abstract explanations.

      I am grateful to you for your gracious words. Anytime somebody starts talking about "spirit guides" I am tempted to respond superciliously. :-)

      "Beware of those wearing a form of godliness but denying the power thereof"

      Awesome verse and one which we all need to heed indeed.

      As you said, "The language and philosophy of this movement has infiltrated just about every area of our culture and society beginning in preschool using such techniques as visualization and yoga."

      I am glad you affirmed that what "can be seen in many false religions is a female kind of hierarchy and avoidance of the issue of personal sin." And, as you noted so well: "Christianity is so offensive to some because it requires us to take the good hard difficult look at our condition"

      AMEN!!

      God Bless You!

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      suzettenaples— You are quite welcome, my dear. New Age Religion seems to be creeping in and seeping in wherever it can.

      Thank you for visiting and commenting. I am glad you like my article and I appreciate the compliments.

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      Shikinah 4 years ago from UK

      Thank you James for your reply, I'm just a humble servant trying to worship the Lord in spirit and in truth. It's very true what you said Jesus is not in competition with these man made gods, and have you noticed how the image of molech (owl) is being paraded as the latest fashion accessory. Unlike you I don't believe Jesus is God but is a God, as I have also done plenty of research on the trinity, hence the reason I came to my present conclusion. Here's a simple break down which should get most trintarians bells ringing.

      We know that at the top of the religious structure is free masonry/illuminati, next we have the Lucis trust formerly known as the lucifer trust, situated in New York at 666 United Nations Plaza. Then from this we have "World Good Will" together with the World Council Of Churches. All spiritual instruction for this interfaith blasphemy is fed

      from the top down. Then when you check the membership of the World Council Of Churches, you realise that every member church teaches the Trinity. I remember when I first discovered this I felt a chill run down my spine. There was Pentecostal, Seventh Days Adventist, Baptist, Catholic, you name it it was there. This is how this octopus organisation is able to slyly drip feed it's New Age poison to the Christian masses, without them even being aware. I'm not trying to frighten anyone or tell anyone how they should worship, but if we are true Christians we only want what's best for our brothers and sisters.

      I Thessalonians 5:6-8: "So then, let us not be like others, who are asleep, but let us be alert and self-controlled. For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, get drunk at night. But since we belong to the day, let us be self-controlled, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet." God wants us to be alert and to see the dangers all around us and to warn others. Ezekiel 33 says that we are "watchmen" and we are "responsible" to warn of incoming danger of the coming judgment. This should be the main task of the Church and of Christians who seek Christ's will & the will of his father who is in the Heavens.

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      Dave McClure 4 years ago from Kyle, Scotland

      Hi James - just to revisit my earlier comment which was written in haste. I said "New Age is mere mumbo-jumbo". What I really intended by that was that many of the fads, such as the healing power of pyramids, are nonsensical. However, the raised awareness of the interconnectedness and fragility of the biosphere can only be a good thing.

      Like most mass movements, New Age has rational and irrational aspects and requires careful scrutiny.

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      Frank P. Crane 4 years ago from Richmond, VA

      As usual right on the money. Thanks James.

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      Madison Gardiner. 4 years ago from Denver, Colorado

      Why it sounds peaceful to me... Do we not all have the right to choose what we personally believe in? And after all don't we ALL have different beliefs. No one is exactly the same in their beliefs. This certainly is interesting and informative though.

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      Shikinah 4 years ago from UK

      Hi themadimadimadi, you are totally right people should have the right to choose what they believe in. But when you have a force which has gone all out to deceive and manipulate to bring death to those who lure them, like giving candy to a baby, then we have an obligation to expose such things. On the surface it looks all lovely, happy, free for all, peace and security etc etc.. but beneath the camouflage is a web more deadlier than you could ever imagine. I'm speaking from personal experience and it took these New Agers at least five years to slowly lure me in to something which appeared to be love and life.

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      Gypsy Rose Lee 4 years ago from Riga, Latvia

      A truly fascinating read. Sort of like saying off with the old on with the new. However I think that we should stick to our basic beliefs and have faith in God above. Passing this on.

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      davidklauge 4 years ago

      It sounds like the new age religion will bring peace just like someone mentioned here. However, we must know that this movement will not be necessary if the current religious movement had given peace to mankind. It is because of the failure in teaching peace and the increasing religious hate that called for the new age religion which is important to restore man to his rightful place but now people claim that it is the devil that want to bring peace when God failed to bring same peace. Mind your religion and let others mind theirs. I, for one, came for the new age religion, a time religion will no longer be a border that will separate man from his fellow man.

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      Shikinah 4 years ago from UK

      Hello Davidklauge, you make some interesting points. God knew that religion would not bring peace on earth and that man was not created to guide himself. But free will along with the lie from lucifer "that you positively will not die" has left humans to their own demise. There will be as promised one true way of life & worship under Jehovah/Yahweh God through his son Yeshuah/Jesus Christ, but it won't be the counterfeit which the majority will pay homage to. They will usher in "peace and security" the likes we have never seen. But first they have to create such a threat of fear with possible threat of nuclear war “Ordo Ab Chao”.. That pyramid on the dollar bill is the unfinished religious/political order. The cap stop will complete it when lucifer has it accomplished. Those who refuse to worship this religious system will be out casts..and those who help to eradicate these Christians, will actually believe they are doing a good thing.

      John 16:2 “For they shall put you out from their assemblies, and the hour will come when everyone who would kill you will think that he presents an offering to God.”

      2 Thessalonians 2:4 He will exalt himself and defy everything that people call god and every object of worship. He will even sit in the temple of God, claiming that he himself is God.

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Shikinah— You are quite welcome. Thank you for the 2nd comment you posted 2 days back. I am glad you are saved. And that you were able to escape the grip of this pernicious false religion.

      Because God is light, Satan masquerades as an angel of light. And he fools many. But really, they are fooled by their own hearts, by the wicked desires of their hearts. Most people know this deep down inside. Very few are sociopaths without a conscience. Most people know when they are doing wrong. But New Age Religion justifies it for them.

      You are right that the implication is we can save ourselves without God. And New Age teaches that there is no heaven, and therefore no hell. There is no punishment, even for Hitler or Stalin or Mao, for what they have done. This is comforting for many and used as a license for gross, base hedonism. This is not a reaching upwards but a reaching downwards to our lowest selves.

      I was not familiar with that word, "Maitreya." Thanks for the "enlightenment" on that (pun intended). I have heard of bodhisattva, of course, from the song by Steely Dan.

      God Bless You.

      James

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      Rod Marsden 4 years ago from Wollongong, NSW, Australia

      I'm not so sure reincarnation should go with the rest here. I believe it was the Catholic Church that decided that reincarnation wasn't to be part of Christianity.

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Shikinah— Now, as for your next comment, made 27 hours ago . . .

      I had not noticed the owl being a new fashion statement. I will have to look for that.

      You know, I don't care much about the Trinity. I think the relationship between God the Father, Jesus the Son and Savior, and the Holy Ghost the Comforter and Teacher, is a mystery beyond our comprehension.

      I actually have a Hub in the works about the Illuminati and the New World Order. So stay tuned. :-)

      I must confess, I knew nothing about the company "Founded as the Lucifer Publishing Company in the early 1920s, the name was changed in 1925 to the Lucis Publishing Company." 666 United Nations Plaza. Man, sometimes things are hiding in plain sight. That is amazing.

      I did know that the World Council of Churches is an organization influenced by Satan.

      I don't think the Trinity has anything to do with any of this, though. There you lose me. The Trinity is simply the best explanation the Greek Church Fathers—who were devout, humble, pious Christian men no doubt but also philosophers—could come up with to explicate the relationship between Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Jesus did teach us to use that phrase, did He not? Father, Son, and Holy Spirit?

      Now any organization that claims to represent Christians and the Christian Faith but puts demonic religions on par with believing in Jesus is Satanic, to be sure.

      Yes, you are spot on that God wants us to be Watchmen, to be alert, and to warn others of the dangers of evil and of the coming Judgment.

      Thank you for all of your brilliant comments. And you are most welcome.

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Paraglider— I appreciate you coming back by to clarify and enhance your earlier comments.

      I think some of the New Age Religion is innocuous, some silly, some dangerously foolish, some quite deadly serious. I think there is an inner circle of true believers, and lots of pretenders, and lots of plain old ignorant people who don't know what they do.

      Thank you for visiting and commenting, my erudite friend.

      James :)

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      liftandsoar— Thank you!! Thank you very much! :D

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      skye2day 4 years ago from Rocky Mountains

      James my bro, WOW is what comes to mind. I really liked how you expressed Christian response. I had to chuckle at the terminology and Satan's mistress. Truly I feel sorry for these people. Many search and find in the wrong places!!! I know because I searched in the wrong places. Remember Kahlil Gabran? All along it was Jesus I was searching for He is the hole filler, Amen. Oh yikes I was lost. I am so........grateful to God HE picked me up when I was in the mire mud. There is nothing more precious or beautiful to know truth and to be in relationship with Christ. May GOD help those that do not believe. Let us pray that their hardened hearts are touched by the Holy Spirit of God. One day they will know the truth and it may be to late for them. Of course that is another topic.

      I am honored to read your eloquent writing. It flows like running water. You truly are a gifted writer and one of my fav's!!! I hope many come to read and I pray many seeds are planted. The enemy roams to devour and Praise GOD he is doomed to hell and we are made righteous through Jesus.

      Keep going my dear friend. You will I know it. Phil 4:13 Love to you and yours. Your sista in Christ Jesus. skye

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      skye2day 4 years ago from Rocky Mountains

      James my bro me again. I just read the comments. Engaging!

      There is NO ground between light and dark!!!

      Well done good and faithful servent. Keep on shining that light!!

      Your sis, skye

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      Shikinah 4 years ago from UK

      Hello James,

      Yes apparently Maitreya was supposed to be living in the UK not far from me lol.. There was an article in the newspaper a few years ago, about a certain journalist who people had suspected was him, this journalist said "I'm not him"but what made it so funny, was that this Maitreya wouldn't know that he was the New Age messiah, plus they said he would speak with a slight stutter which this guy had, which made it all the more bizaar. This individual was of asian appearance and worked for the UN.

      It's good to hear you have another hub in the pipeline, the illuminate now that should be interesting. I tried to get one started on the Nephilim but I guess there are too many already and couldn't publish it.

      What you said about the New Agers giving a license for gross, base hedonism is spot on, they even believe that we are gods having a human experience?

      James 1:14 But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire. Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death.

      Thank you again for a great topic

      Jah Bless.

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      themadimadimadi— Of course we all have the right to choose what we pesonally believe in. Did anyone here say differently?

      Do we ALL have different beliefs? That depends on what you mean by different. If you mean minor differences, naturally we all do. If you mean complete differences of worldview, not really. For instance, there are 2 billion Christians in the world. While they may differ on small things they have the same view on the BIG THING. And that is: Why are we here, what is the meaning of this world, what is the purpose of life.

      I am glad you found this article to be informative and interesting. Thank you for taking the time to read it and for making your presence known. Welcome to the HubPages Community! :-)

      James

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Shikinah— Thank you for your excellent rejoinder to my other commenter. By the way, I love your HubPages Name. Well chosen! :D

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Gypsy Rose Lee— I agree with your assessment. Thank you very much for taking the time to come by and read my Hub. I am flattered that you would consider it worthy enough to share with your friends. I appreciate your HubPages friendship. :)

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      davidklauge— Thank you for visiting my Hub. I appreciate your thoughtful comments.

      I see no way that "New Age Religion" erases any borders. Its adherents hope it will but why would it? The only way it would would be if all Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Muslims, et al. dropped their beliefs and joined the New Age Religion too. That is not going to happen so that part of the New Age program shall remain fruitless.

      The Christian Faith is a religion of love and peace and it is universal, for all men and women on the planet. So the New Age offers nothing new in that regard. It is more likely that all of humanity will become Christians rather than all will become New Agers. The Christian Faith has far more to offer.

      It is not up to religion to bring peace all by itself. That is up to individual human beings. You want peace, be peaceful. I am. I only know of one religion that preaches hate and that is Islam.

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Shikinah— Thank you for your riposte to my other visitor. You make some good points and you have some good ideas.

      I do not think the New World Order will feature Christianity, or even a phony Christianity. The progressives don't even pretend to be Christians anymore. The great totalitarians—Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, etc, following Marx, and Freud and Darwin, eschew religion altogether. I believe the New World Order will be officially Atheist, as was the USSR. New Age Religion might be tolerated since it is either psychobabble or devil worship, depending on the adherent.

      I appreciate your contributions to this discussion. Thanks again for participating in our debate.

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      Shikinah 4 years ago from UK

      Hello again James,

      The Bible speaks about the great apostacy which will take place in the last days. It speaks about Babylon the great the religious harlot, who is drunk with the blood of the holy ones. It seems like Christianity will do the unthinkable and abandon Christian teachings as we know it for an alternative cocktail which will be pleasing to the masses. You realise that this is apostate christendom, because Revelations says that she was drunk with the blood of the prophets and of the holy ones. The catholic church with it's holy wars and inquisitions. It's burning of the faithful men like William Tilsdale, it's Jesuit infiltration along with it's softly softly approach with Hitler who was also a catholic. The catholic church is the mother of harlots along with her daughter religions who also take part in this ecumenical prostitution with pagan gods of the world.

      Revelation 18:3 For all the nations have drunk the maddening wine of her adulteries. The kings of the earth committed adultery with her, and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries."

      Revelation 18;7 Give her as much torture and grief as the glory and luxury she gave herself. In her heart she boasts, 'I sit as queen; I am not a widow, and I will never mourn.'(Semiramis was the original Queen of Babylon, she was married to Nimrod the first to be a mighty hunter in opposition to Jehovah. Semiramis became a widow, this prophesy takes us full circle.

      Revelation 18:14 Then I heard another voice from heaven say: "Come out of her, MY PEOPLE, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues;

      Revelation 18:5 for her sins have piled up as high as heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.

      Revelation 17:4 The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries.

      Revelation 18;18 Therefore, these plagues will overtake her in a single day--death and mourning and famine. She will be completely consumed by fire, for the Lord God Jehovah who judges her is mighty."

      Revelation 17;16 The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire.

      Revelation 18:2 The sound of harps, singers, flutes, and trumpets will never be heard in you again. No craftsmen and no trades will ever be found in you again. The sound of the mill will never be heard in you again.

      Revelation 18.:23 The light of a lamp will never shine in you again. The happy voices of brides and grooms will never be heard in you again. For your merchants were the greatest in the world, and you deceived the nations with your sorceries.

      Revelation 18;24 In her was found the blood of prophets and of the saints, and of all who have been killed on the earth."

      Revelation 17:17 For God has put a plan into their minds, a plan that will carry out his purposes. They will agree to give their authority to the scarlet beast, and so the words of God will be fulfilled.

      So God puts the plan into the wild beasts mind (New World Order) to carry out his own plan. Just as the harlot thinks she is reigning..the governments will turn on her and strip of her wealth and burn her to the ground. Then let the battle commence. This is why so many people will be misled and not know the way out.

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      davidkaluge 4 years ago

      Who are the 'Christians"

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      Shikinah 4 years ago from UK

      All the major Christian religions, you see God doesn't care about the other religions, as they don't profess to worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Moses. It is the Christian religions who in the name of Jesus go to war, their vicars and priests bless the guns of the soldiers. They place Buddha upon the alter of the catholic church, they are marrying gay men. If Jesus turned up to day he would do exactly as he did 2000 years ago and over turn the pulpits. These things are just a taste of the things to come. That's why the bible says "get out of her my people if you do not want to share in her sins"

      Mathew 7:

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Rod Marsden— Thank you for reading my article. It is always a pleasure to hear from you.

      Reincarnation cannot fit into the Christian Faith and never could have. In our faith, you have one life, one soul, and after death you face God to answer for the life you lived.

      Reincarnation, souls living over and over again—cannot be fitted into this scheme.

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      Shikinah 4 years ago from UK

      Mathew 7:22-23

      Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' And then I will confess to them, 'I have never known you, remove yourselves far from me, you workers of evil.'

      This will be the reply Jesus will give when he returns, this reply is not to the hindus, New Agers or Buddhists it is to those who profess to worship him and his father.

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      skye2day— Hello Sister! I am thrilled that you came to visit and quite pleased that you like my Hub. It has been a while since I have heard your lovely voice on these airwaves. Thank you ever much for reading my article, and for your outstanding remarks. I appreciate your affirmation and encouragement.

      I remember Kahlil Gibran, yes. He is supposed to be the 3rd best selling poet of all time, behind only Shakespeare and Lao-Tzu. And he was a staple among the counterculture in the 1960s.

      I hear you, my friend, about that hole in the soul that God made to be filled by Him and if we don't fill it with Him we will fill it with whatever we can but it shall remain empty. Wasn't it Kierkegaard who described it so? A "God shaped hole" that many attempt to fill in with sin? OR mere distraction.

      I am glad you shared your testimony with us. I will join you in that prayer. The Truth will set you free. Free from slavery to sin. I am humbly grateful for your awesome accolades about my work. Thanks again for both of your comments and the Love.

      God Bless You!

      James :D

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Shikinah— Thank you for all of your comments on this Hub. That story about the "Maitreya" is quite interesting alright.

      You wrote: "I tried to get one started on the Nephilim but I guess there are too many already and couldn't publish it."

      This really surprises me. It is hard to believe that hardly anybody has written Hubs about the Nephilim. And even if they have, who is to stop you from publishing another one? Did someone say you couldn't?

      I appreciate that excellent Scripture, and your blessings. Thanks again for your witness to the world. And you are most welcome.

      God Bless You!

      James

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      Hxprof 4 years ago from Clearwater, Florida

      Shikinah-You've made a number of comments here to which I heartily agree. The end of the age 'Babylonian Church' is a watered down church filled with New Age rubish and towing the line for Babylon, which is already in place.

      There've been a number of books out by some notable authors, usually derisively dismissed by mainline Christianity, that have revealed aspects of this false church. One such book is Predators in Our Pulpits written by Phillip Keller in the 80's. We've seen things go further downhill since then.

      You're right on target in your thinking on this subject, and events of the near future will bear this out for all those who have ears to hear. Christ is to have a pure bride, dressed in white, but right now that bride is wearing a tattered, dingy wedding gown, a gown that reflects the condition of her heart.

      The difficult times to come are being allowed by God to purify His church; many of His people will take heed to Christ's words in these times to "Buy from Me gold refined by fire". But sadly, many of His people also will refuse, thus denying themselves an eternity with Christ.

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      jb 4 years ago

      jb 2 days ago— I have some important information to share with you. I'm sorry if my profile pics disturb you. I want you to discuss this with your fellow friends and Rabbis. The main source is from the scriptures, the net and other religions and societies prophecy. I have given the source proofs at last. Please feel free to discuss where you feel "this is not adding up" or "its incomplete" cause an average person does NOT want to know, and even when confronted with it, will look the other way. Their rituals are based on the construction of King Solomon's Temple. The artifacts, the tools are used as symbols. . These people don't show themselves but their fruits are everywhere through signs, symbols, numbers, subliminal messages....etc. Spoofing the religions, governments, medias....everything and bring it to their control is what they are looking for. Presently, their control extents from kings and queens to presidents, chiefs to people who are knowing and unknowing supporting this cult.

      They are working for the destruction of the whole humanity in a stealthy manner. It's the hybrid Canaanite and Satan bloodlines unite them worldwide. they practice mix-ups of Asian religions, cults, Satanism, anything except true Christianity and ancient Judaism; also waits for their false messiah whose gonna rule the world for some time. It's not actually waiting, it's a setup to deceive the whole human race to worship their false god. their branches includes the list mentioned in the above link, each with different sub-aims to infiltrate different sectors including education, entertainment, politics, banking, intelligence, religion,....so on to achieve their main aim; which is to rule the world in false peace. They work and coordinate together. the same people are setting up the one world governments and have dominations in America, Europe and Israel; started movements like Zionism[their conspiracy against Jews],...they even changed the ancient Judaism symbol menorah to modern star of David. also infiltrated and induced idols to Christians like Catholics (I guess) and blinded them from true G-D and made them their main secret enemies. they are inside every sectors and are using people as remote controlled puppets to make their evil plan succeed. You need to see current events in a new way. The conflict is NOT between countries or religions or "civilizations."Similarly, they are presently USING the Jews to rebuild the 3rd Temple and they need to bring their hoax messiah for their evil prophecies to fulfill and to

      bow all Jews and Christians before him; those who don't worship him will be slaughtered. they will, no, they are using the Muslims, Catholics, communists, all nations, all means(medias, educational, psycological, moral,..)...according to their plan to make world a war zone to make all humans cry for peace to accept the NWO and the messiah whose gonna bring false peace plans, unite the Governments(which is taking place today) and make the whole world bow down to him. This was said by an ex-illuminati Svali a woman who was raised in the illuminati family: "The conflict in the Middle East is only to the advantage of the Illuminists. They HATE Israel, and hope one day to see it destroyed, and are biding their time. One of the olive branches offered by the UN when it takes over is that they will prevent war in the Middle East, and this will be greeted with joy by many. At the same time, the Illuminati covertly supply guns and funds to BOTH sides to keep the conflict fuelled. They are very duplicitous people. They used to funnel guns through the USSR to Palestine, for example, in the name of promoting "friendliness" between the USSR and this state and other Arab nations. Then, the US Illuminists would help funnel guns to Israel, for the same reason. These people love the game of chess, and see warfare between nations as creating an order out of chaos. The USSR is going to get stronger again. It has too strong a military both openly, and covertly (ALL Illuminati military trainers have visited Russia to learn from them) to sit quietly and quiescently to the side. In the NWO, they will be stronger than us." This just adds up with the Revelation by John. In Israel, they currently have altar in Eilat and 60 lodges. Only Orthodox Jews oppose them. They took more concentration to bring Jews and people who would accept their Masonic conspiracy inside, than bringing back the all the Jews who are scattered whole around the globe keeping the laws and observing the Jewish holidays. Sadly, there are Jews, Rabbis and priests knowingly or unknowingly helping them and being used by them in the West. These same people who are more dangerous threat than Muslims and anti-Israel Christians are the enemies inside the State. This One World Government gonna make the new borders for Israel and war; like prophesied the whole nations are gonna join to war against Israel. According to Torah, in the final battle, neither America nor Britain nor Europe nor India nor anyone is mentioned as Israel's allies. Its going to be a battle between Israel and the whole other nations. All this what i have mentioned here doesn't have a start and end to describe. Patiently PRAY, repent, prepare ourselves and our family, search for knowledge, wisdom and wait to see what's gonna happened. So, this is a serious matter to discuss and to plan for the near future. You may not get the idea, until and unless you start to research NOW!!! about what's happening around you, cause today what we listen and hear is from them in their cover; even your close friends and people you trusted may become your greatest enemies.

      THIS IS A CONCLUSION I GOT FROM henrymakow.com ABOUT ILLUMINATI AND CATHY 'BRIEN [article:Illuminati Sex Slaves Paint Horrifying Picture]

      https://www.facebook.com/pages/STOP-THE-NEW-WORLD-

      As the Kennedy assassination and 9-11 prove, the United States (and most countries) have been totally subverted by a Luciferian international criminal elite. The role of politicians, media and education is to keep the sheep deluded and distracted while the elite stealthily advances its goal of world tyranny. Western society today is a massive fraud. It is tragic that brave young American soldiers have been brainwashed to believe they are advancing freedom when the opposite is the case. A reader tells me that this article is treason. Is it patriotic to obey traitors? The populations of the West are spoiled, self centered and complacent. How can things be so bad when we have so much? We don't realize that the goodies can be taken away in a second by tightening credit.We don't realize that we are being distracted with fears, attractions while our political and social institutions, our bulwarks against tyranny, are being infiltrated and dismantled. Our children are being brainwashed. Don't ask, "What can we do?" That is conditioned helplessness. Figure it out yourself. Take responsibility. Send me your ideas. There is no quick fix to this mess. But we must stand up for truth. They may have the weapons of mass deception, but, as Cathy O'Brien says, "the truth doesn't go away."

      PROOFS:

      1. Who are freemasons? intro what they are up to? http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/13_

      http://andromida.hubpages.com/hub/illuminati-new-w

      http://www.bibleprobe.com/freemasonry.htm

      2. Presently, most of the freemasons are in Israel. See the flag-count at bottom in their site. http://www.freemasonry.org.il/

      3. pagan alters in israel. http://www.cuttingedge.org/News/n2012.cfm

      4. Activities. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ8G4O3DqBs

      5. Did they made divisions?

      6. NWO is not Jewish. http://www.henrymakow.com/000808.html

      7. Check the subliminal messages send by books, photos, movies, music, newspapers, magazines...nearly all medias.

      http://www.artistmike.com/Temp/SubliminalAd.html

      http://www.dataasylum.com/

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      jb— Thank you very much for taking the time to read my article and post such an extraordinary response. I have a rough draft written—as I mentioned in an earlier comment—of an article about the New World Order, for which I used as my primary source the book by William T. Still, "New World Order: The Ancient Plan of Secret Societies."

      Now, JB, your comment was a bit messed up. There was something weird about the spacing of your words that made your comment take up three times as much space as it should have. Also, I don't mind you posting a couple links to other articles but for every OUTBOUND link to someone else's website that anybody posts in my comments I am penalized a little bit by Google. On the other hand, I get extra points from Google for any INBOUND links TO my Hub that you put on other people's websites. In other words, if you posted ten links on my Hub to other people's websites AND posted a link to my Hub on all ten of their websites, it would be even steven. If you put links to my Hub on ten other websites and no outbound links on mine that helps my Hub climb in the Google rankings and thus more people will find it and read it.

      You posted 15 outbound links in your comments, many of which more or less say the same thing. Worse, you posted outbound links to the same websites over and over again. So, here is what I did. I think your comments deserve to be read. I rewrote them for you, without the funny spacing, and I cleaned up your spelling mistakes, too. I cut five outbound links from your comments that were duplicates but I kept the others. Now there are still 10 outbound links.

      I appreciate your remarks. Thanks again for them.

      James A Watkins

      ps By the way, I did read all the articles you gave links to. The web page of "artist mike" is stunning!

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Shikinah— Hello again. I appreciate those most excellent Scriptures to reference. I certainly agree that the Main Line Protestant denominations have fallen away from sound biblical teaching by their embrace of fudgepacking and baby killing. They are apostate churches. In fact, they are the definition of heretics.

      Most people figure the references to Babylon in the New Testament to mean Rome, alright, but not the Roman Catholic Church. On the contrary, it is about the Pagan Roman Empire that persecuted the Church for nearly 300 years.

      In fact, even today, it is not the Roman Catholic Church that has newly embraced evil doctrines but the Anglicans, Episcopals, Presbyterians, and Methodists. The Catholic doctrines—with the obvious exceptions of Mary, Purgatory, etc., which are not anything new but old stuff that I believe will be outgrown one day—are more in line with Evangelical doctrines than the old Main Line churches.

      Hitler was absolutely NOT a Catholic. That is ridiculous. He was an occultist and a Satanist who pushed a sort of Germanic neo-paganism. He hated Christians and Christianity—Catholics or Protestants.

      I do not believe the Catholic Church will be on the side of the New World Order but against it, hopefully after a reunion with Evangelicals in an ecumenical movement. They are finding now that more unites them than separates them, much to the surprise of many on both sides.

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      davidkaluge— You ask a very good question. To me, anyone who believes that Jesus died on the cross for their sins, and believes that Christ was resurrected from the dead, and who tries to Follow Him in His teachings, and who is repentant for their sins and asks forgiveness for them, is a Christian.

      Then again, I would accept this definition: Anyone who believes and confesses this statement:

      "We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is, seen and unseen.

      We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. Through him all things were made. For us and for our salvation he came down from heaven: by the power of the Holy Spirit he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary, and was made man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate; he suffered death and was buried. On the third day he rose again in accordance with the Scriptures; he ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end.

      We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father. With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified. He has spoken through the Prophets. We believe in one holy [universal] and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen."

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Shikinah— Thank you for posting the two additional comments today. You make a very good point when you say:

      "This will be the reply Jesus will give when he returns, this reply is not to the Hindus, New Agers or Buddhists it is to those who profess to worship him and his father."

      You know that's right. Well put. Amen!

      james :D

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      Shikinah 4 years ago from UK

      Hello James, I just wanted to point out that Hitler was brought up a catholic and according to Hitler's chief architect Albert Speer Hitler remained a formal member of the Catholic Church until his death. According to biographer John Toland, Hitler was still "a member in good standing of the Church of Rome despite his detestation of its hierarchy. There were two main religions which he hated and had put in concentration camps were the Jews who were made to were the star of David and the Jehovahs Witnesses, who were made to were a purple triangle. Why these two? because they had both worshiped Yahweh/Jehovah.

      Here's a link to a blog where some are actually saying that Hitler was a good Catholic.

      http://xenophilius.wordpress.com/2010/04/11/turin-... have seen

      Here is a video please watch it, it's by a priest John O'Conner, who was excommunicated after giving this talk to his parishiners from the pulpit. He speaks about the New Age religion and the infiltration and corruptness of the catholic church, it is 1 of 3, one of the best sermons I have ever heard.

      http://youtu.be/YlqBJsXsIYM

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      Shikinah 4 years ago from UK

      Sorry James I know you don't like too many links, but these two are the follow up to John O' Conners first part of the video, as I want you to hear the part about the Catholic church.

      Part 2 http://youtu.be/jcKVWWYIa_c

      Part 3 http://youtu.be/VXghTbrcV8o

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Hxprof— You know that I am always tickled when you come to visit. That's because I know how busy you are; and that you face many challenges these days, my friend; and your comments never fail to enthrall my mind.

      So, I thank you, brother, for your riposte to Shikinah (or perhaps better described as a concurrence). I certainly agree with you about the 'rubbish' aspect of New Age Religion.

      I am going to check out the book you mentioned by Philip Keller. One of my favorite pastors is Tim Keller. I wonder if they might be related?

      As always, your comments are truly extraordinary and superbly brilliant.

      By the Love of Christ,

      May God Bless You,

      James

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      Angel Ward 4 years ago from Galveston, TX

      eek! I definitely believe it is a religion, but some 'facts' seemed more like opinions. Don't get me wrong, i agree with almost everything you said, but no, not all new-agers deny a personal God, I have met many who feel very close to God and His effect on them, they just get bitchy about Jesus, (jealously against him at times) They believe God is in everything that happens to them, 11:11ers are a good example. Also the denial of patriarchal society I take offense at. I study quite a bit in history and esoteric brotherhoods etc and most of the roots you mentioned, look like hermetic-style roots, look at all the brotherhoods from AMORC to Freemasons=Patriarchs of our country! Matriarchal societies don't start wars, just look at My Creek and Cherokee ancestors who were more matriarchal in Character, Patriarchal systems are chock-full of mysticism and alchemy, not to mention racism and war.... there needs to be balance! Jesus himself tried to break all of those so-called sexist social norms. Good hub, but a little more research is needed on new age and a little less ranting. I have known many Pagans and new agers and must say, I lean toward a mystical/ esoteric Christianity, but absolutely only that which I can prove is fact, just like Christians think Astrology is like voodoo, ummm its cosmic weather, period. meteorologists of today with their technology would be burned at the stake if we sent them back in time 500 years. Even Jesus was found with a star...so as weird as I sound, I have good old common sense measured with tons of study. I know you are a pretty smart guy, very informative man, just wondering how many friends you actually know who are new-agers, being that is is usually hard for a Christian to be open to listening to others who can back-bite their faith....

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      Shikinah 4 years ago from UK

      Hxprof thank you for your kind words. Who is the faithful and discreet slave who Jesus leaves over his sheep on returning he finds the master not providing food at the appointed time?

      We know the Bride of Christ will present herself as a virgin, undefiled without making compromises with the wild beast. We know it's not one of the leading religions who prostitute herself with the kings of the world. As Mathew 7:13-14 says the following..

      "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many are entering through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."

      So like in the day of Noah, when proof was right before them, yet they didn't want to listen. Today Babylon the great sits a queen, and many are being seduced by her lies, but very few are actually digging deep enough to find the truth which Jesus spoke about. Know the truth and the truth will set you free from, Idolatry, apostasy, spiritism, sun god worship, Ashtoreth also known as Astarte goddess of fertility celebrated

      at Easter by most Christian churches. These practices are only growing and now with the help of the Ecumenical movement are now introducing the new power churches, with the new awakening, where miracles are being performed in the name of Christ, while church rock bands perform for the Pope. Would Jesus have stood by and watched a false god being placed upon the alter of Yahweh/Jehovah? Here is a video of a march taking place in Manchester UK, trying to warn worshipers about the Ecumenical Movement.

      http://youtu.be/KHBUA-BHReA

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      prasetio30 4 years ago from malang-indonesia

      Very informative hub, Brother. You always find the most interesting topic. I believe that your reader never leave your hubs until the finish reading it completely. I never doubt to give my VOTE to you. God bless you!

      Best wishes, Prasetio

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Shikinah— Thank you very much for both of your most recent comments. I truly agree with much that you believe about the New World Order.

      But . . . Hitler was motivated by the Antichrist. It is a trick of anti-Christian historians to paint Hitler as a Christian so as to make Christians look bad. In the same way, liberal academia wrongly paints Hitler (and Fascism) as on the Right of the political spectrum when in fact all Totalitarian, Authoritarian, Communist, Socialist, Progressive governments are logically to the Left of center in true political science, with the Left standing for State power and the Right for Individual Freedom. So how did Hitler ended up on the Right in American college courses? Liberal academia, which had defended Stalin to the death, faced with 100 million dead human souls killed by Communists/Socialists/Atheists could not bear ALL mass killers being on their side of the spectrum and so lied their way to putting Hitler on the Right, and making him a "Christian." They even try to deny he was a Socialist even though the word Nazi means socialist. For more on Hitler, check out this little Hub of mine:

      https://hubpages.com/education/Experiments-in-Soci...

      Here are some direct quotes from Adolf Hitler:

      "National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity."

      "Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.... Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse.... ...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.... Christianity the liar.... We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State."

      "The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity. Originally, Christianity was merely an incarnation of Bolshevism, the destroyer.... The decisive falsification of Jesus' doctrine was the work of St. Paul. He gave himself to this work... for the purposes of personal exploitation.... Didn't the world see, carried on right into the Middle Ages, the same old system of martyrs, tortures, of old, it was in the name of Christianity. Today, it's in the name of Bolshevism. Yesterday the instigator was Saul: the instigator today, Mordecai. Saul was changed into St. Paul, and Mordecai into Karl Marx. By exterminating this pest, we shall do humanity a service of which our soldiers can have no idea."

      "Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery.... .... When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunized against the disease."

      "Kerrl, with noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don't believe the thing's possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself.... Pure Christianity-- the Christianity of the catacombs-- is concerned with translating Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind. It is merely whole-hearted Bolshevism, under a tinsel of metaphysics. There is something very unhealthy about Christianity. I shall never come personally to terms with the Christian lie. In the next 200 years will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity.... My only regret will be that I couldn't have been there to behold its demise."

      END QUOTES

      Hitler was an occultist who practiced ritual magic and worshiped Satan. He was initiated into Satan worship by George Lanz von Liebenfels, founder of a Vienna based The Order of the New Templars, which had a swastika as its emblem.

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      angel115707— Thank you very much for taking the time to read my article. I really appreciate and enjoyed reading your measured response. I am grateful for your courtesy and graciousness.

      Jesus was not a very controversial figure in America before the 1960s countercultural revolution. Jesus surely never did anyone any harm or wished any harm on anyone. It would hard for anybody to come up with a more beautiful person than Jesus, methinks.

      I am glad to read that you love and study history. We certainly have that in common. It has been a lifelong pursuit of mine to study history and people; cultures and political systems; changes for the good, and changes for the bad (of which I am convinced run 50-50).

      I agree with you that "Jesus himself tried to break all of those so-called sexist social norms. "

      I am sorry that you perceived my Hub as a "rant." I didn't mean it that way.

      I am all for common sense, to be sure. And research, too. I love it!

      I have had lots of friends who are or were New Agers. I am a child of the Sixties/Seventies who once lived in a Hippie Commune!! :D

      I am open to listening to others. I am seeker of the Truth.

      I am thankful for the kind compliments. Thanks again for visiting and for engaging on this sensitive and complex topic.

      James

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Shikinah— I appreciate your fine commentaries. Thank you for participating in our discussion and for your unique contributions to the conversation.

      Under the right circumstances, I do not think Christ would oppose an ecumenical movement. He did, after all, tell us not to be divided but unified in the Body of Christ. I hope all Christians eventually come together as one unified body, as Jesus wanted. It is obvious that many folks will have to bend their confessions and professions of the faith, as well as their rituals or liturgy. But what unites us is more than what divides us if you compare us with what is coming in the secular world.

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      Hxprof 4 years ago from Clearwater, Florida

      James, the problem I have with "an ecumenical movement" is that ultimately, there is only one truth, one body of sound doctrine. Christ said "I am the way, the TRUTH and the life...." (emphasis is mine). That means one truth. And here we have a multitude of denominations.

      Granted, on some doctrines we can probably agree that there's some hair splitting - no big deal. But with other doctrines that's absolutely not the case; not at all. I dare say there are "destructive heresies" in every denomination. An ecumenical movement wouldn't eliminate these heresies; rather, the denominations would be leaving behind some destructive heresies in order to embrace some others.

      What I believe is coming, and coming very soon is a house cleaning. This house cleaning won't be revivals within the churches. Judgement begins first with the House of God (that's in one of the Peters, I forget the reference), and that judgement is carried out by God Himself. This judgement will cause Christians to either abandon false doctrines to which they adhere, or sadly, to go the other way, holding fast to destructive heresies.

      That's it. That's what's coming. Mark it down.

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      Shikinah 4 years ago from UK

      Hello James, I thought I had responded to your previous reply must have got distracted. My apologies if I lead you to think that Hitler was a practicing catholic, what I meant was that he was never ex communicated from the church for all the atrocities that he committed. Yes he was heavily into the occult, and was carrying out a trial run of what the elite of this world have planned, with agenda 21 and their new world order.

      Christ said we are to be NO part of this world. Sad to say that the "great apostasy" mentioned in the bible was speaking about Christendom, and her falling away from the sacred teachings of Christ, she will share in the power and the glory and grandeur of the political world and that of the New Age teachings. "Get out of her MY people" says the Lord. Who do you think he is telling HIS people to come out of? The body of Christ will be those who have cleansed their robes in the blood of the lamb, they will not be polluted by this worlds spirit, but will be presentable for when Christ arrives. This is the operation of error which the bible says Yahweh/Jehovah allows to go forth and the majority will believe the lie and the false cry of peace & security. The devil will set up such a wonderful counterfeit of Gods kingdom on earth, that most will fall for the delusion, which will lead to them receiving the mark, all of those who are not written down in the book of life.

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      prasetio30— Well I'll be! It has been quite some time since I have heard from you, my friend. I hope all has been well with you. Thank you for visiting and letting me know you were here. I will come over soon to see what wonderful Hubs you have been publishing lately. Your articles never fail to please.

      I surely appreciate your VOTE, as well as your kind compliments, best wishes, and most of all your blessings.

      God Bless You Brother Prasetio!

      James :)

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      wba108@yahoo.com 4 years ago from upstate, NY

      "Their stance towards Christianity is not neutral, but neutralizing: despite what is often said about openness to all religious standpoints, traditional Christianity is not sincerely regarded as an acceptable alternative."

      I think this is an important observation, that the New Age religion is hostile to Christianity not accepting. I also think the point you made about differing worldviews is important. While many seemed concerned about separating civil society from tradition religion, they don't at all concerned about what they should be concerned about- the worldview of secular humanism via New Age beliefs, being imposed on our young people and society as a whole!

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Hxprof— Thank you for coming back to post additional remarks, which are most excellent indeed and thoughtful. I apologize for taking so long to respond. I have been very sick for about 2 weeks with the flu. Now I am felling better.

      You wrote: "James, the problem I have with "an ecumenical movement" is that ultimately, there is only one truth, one body of sound doctrine. Christ said "I am the way, the TRUTH and the life...." (emphasis is mine). That means one truth. And here we have a multitude of denominations."

      I absolutely agree with your analysis. I think an ecumenical movement will happen that will clean away the rubbish of unsound doctrine and leave only the good and true. It could be that denominations were part of God's plan so that all sorts of people could be reached. I can see why some folks prefer a quiet, reverent, dignified service like that of Presbyterians, and why some need simple liturgies and rituals (routines), and why some like a cerebral service and others like to get excited and shout and jump for joy when they worship. Jesus wants unity and I can see how this can come about. Really, if everything was pared away except the Nicene Creed we could pretty much all agree, couldn't we?

      I think Christians generally agree on more than they disagree on but they let differences cause disunity and that makes the Body of Christ weaker than it should be and thus more vulnerable to enemies of the Lord, of which there are plenty.

      Whether you believe in the Trinity or not, who cares? Transubstantiation? So what? Of course, an ecumenical movement cannot include worshiping any persons besides God the Father and Christ the Son. I can see the growing evil in the world through the growing power of the spirit of this world eventually forcing all Christians to put aside their doctrinal conflicts to unite behind a common purpose—His Purpose.

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Shikinah— Hello there! Thank you ever much for coming back by and offering this clarification of your views. We are in agreeance. :)

      The spirit of this world has surely infected the Main Line Protestant Churches. The more "culturally relevant" they try to become the less people attend their services. They have lost half their congregants since they began the push to apostasy and heresy in the 1970s. Now the Satanic Bishop Spong is quoted openly in actual churches built to worship God in. John Wesley and John Knox must be rolling over in their graves (figure of speech, not literally).

      Your analysis is spot on, I will say that. I certainly appreciate you sharing your wise and discerning thoughts with us here.

      God Bless You!

      James

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      wba108@yahoo.com— New Age Religion is surely not welcoming to orthodox Christianity. It begins with the weird notion that all religions are equal, which necessarily must include Pantheism, Secular Humanism, Wicca, Satanism, Animism, Santeria, Voodoo, et al., along with Buddhism and Hinduism, and of course, Judaism and Islam, as well as anything one might dream up, such as Jimmy Joe Ray Bob Juniorism. That is absurd.

      For instance, whereas Muslims and Buddhists and Jews study teachings OF Mohammed and Buddha and Moses, Christians study teachings ABOUT Jesus—an entirely different thing.

      The idea of the New Age is to diminish the power and story of Christ by dragging Him down in the muck of human philosophies and demonic fantasies while paying lip service to some of Jesus' social ideas. It is incredibly clever—naturally since the Devil knows everything all humans know and have ever known.

      Thank you very much for reading my article. I cherish your most excellent comments and your encouragement of my writing. As always, I sincerely appreciate the visitation from you. :)

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      Hxprof 4 years ago from Clearwater, Florida

      James, your comment that New Age Religion "begins with the weird notion that all religions are equal, which necessarily must include Pantheism, Secular Humanism, Wicca, Satanism, Animism, Santeria, Voodoo, et al., along with Buddhism and Hinduism, and of course, Judaism and Islam, as well as anything one might dream up, such as Jimmy Joe Ray Bob Juniorism" is absolutely right. I've had many conversations with folks who wouldn't call themselves New Agers, but are clearly in agreement with much of what New Age Religion offers.

      And again "The idea of the New Age is to diminish the power and story of Christ by dragging Him down in the muck of human philosophies and demonic fantasies while paying lip service to some of Jesus' social ideas". Right on target. New Age Religion will often use scripture in its practices to draw in the unsuspecting Christian or non believer who would otherwise distance him or herself from such practices. I've been approached by loved ones unwittingly using the screen provided by scripture to try to draw me into some New Age practices.

      You have a picture of Oprah Winfrey as Satan's Mistress - indeed that's the truth. I've seen large chunks of some of her programs during which she promotes a 'religion' of anything goes, including a relationship with Christ. That can't be bad right? She's promoting Christ! But in promoting Christ along with just about any other 'spiritual path' (I hate that phrase) it certainly does diminish Christ.

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      Shikinah 4 years ago from UK

      Thank you James for your reply.

      The New Age has cleverly infiltrated a lot of Christianity, and because they use the word "Christ" people are deluded

      as to what Christ these individuals are referring to. The saddest thing of all is, many of them don't even know the intensions of their own religion and just go along for the spiritual freedom it promises.

      What many fail to understand, is that deep yoga meditation and Reiki opens up the gateway to demonic possession. It was the same when Jesus walked the earth, he spent a lot of his ministry ridding people of these demons. The demons would plea to him "send us into the pigs" because they didn't want to be disembodied and feel the full presence of Jesus light.

      This is why the bible warns us to quit touching the unclean thing and I will take you in. The unclean thing being anything to do with the occult, divination, fortune telling, horoscopes, many of which have changed slighty to also accommodate the New Age belief techniques, such as crystal healing, angel card reading, dowsing, kundalini meditation, yoga, tarot reading, clairvoyants, ouija boards, singing bowls, rune stones and the list go's on.

      As it was in the time of Jesus, so it will be when he returns again, the New Age religion is a tool of satan used to enable demonic access to its victims. This is why we need to take the bibles warnings very seriously. As the scriptures say that satan and his demons know that their time is short and their not going down alone, so we need to be wise and be on the watch for these wolves in sheeps clothing.

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Hxprof— I am glad we are in agreeance, my brother. Oprah Winfrey has done more to send American women along to the path of perdition than any other person. I will share with you what is a great eye-opening little book about her and what she promoted on her program:

      http://www.amazon.com/Oprah-Miracles-New-Earth-Cri...

      "Oprah, Miracles, and the New Earth: A Critique" by Erwin Lutzer.

      Don't let the fact that he is my pastor throw you off. :D

      Thank you for being a friend. Your comments always set a standard for excellence. I am praying for your healing and comfort right now.

      James

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Shikinah— You are quite welcome. Thank you for your contributions to this discussion. I appreciate your participation in our conversation here. All of your comments have been extraordinary.

      As you said so well: "the bible warns us to quit touching the unclean thing and I will take you in. The unclean thing being anything to do with the occult, divination, fortune telling, horoscopes, many of which have changed slightly to also accommodate the New Age belief techniques, such as crystal healing, angel card reading, dowsing, kundalini meditation, yoga, tarot reading, clairvoyants, Ouija boards, singing bowls, rune stones and the list goes on."

      Amen!

      I firmly believe, as you say, that "New Age religion is a tool of Satan used to enable demonic access to its victims."

      Yes indeed. God Bless You and Keep You.

      Brother James

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      bjg5160 4 years ago

      Again, James, well-written and documented; however, I'm surprised that someone with obvious intellect like yourself could consider himself anything but an agnostic. I appreciate your delivery for what it is...but I think you need a little Vonnegut in your life. Keep writing!!

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      bjg5160— Welcome to the HubPages Community. I have actually written an article about one of Kurt Vonnegut's best stories. Here is a link to it:

      https://hubpages.com/literature/Harrison-Bergeron-...

      Thank you ever much for the awesome accolades. I will be by soon to see what you've been writing. I have made myself a note of it.

      I could not be an agnostic, weak-kneed and afraid to take a stand. I have studied the situation carefully and for a long, long time. My conclusion is that Jesus was who He said He was. Thank God!

      :)

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      William Kovacic 4 years ago from Pleasant Gap, PA

      James,

      Thanks for a well written, well researched hub. Enjoyed the read as well as the comments.

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      bjg5160 4 years ago

      James, where you see it as weak-kneed and afraid to take a stand, I see it as being empathetic to a greater, global vision. One of the great powers that have evolved in our minds is the ability to question everything...forever. I think we can agree to disagree, though. Cheers, mate!

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      lifegate--Hey! You are quite welcome. Thank you for taking the time to read my article and send me such a nice note. I am glad you enjoyed it and I appreciate the compliments.

      God Bless!

      James

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      bjg5160— Yes, my friend, we can certainly agree to disagree. But "Empathetic to a greater global vision?"

      What could possibly be a greater global vision than that of Christ?

      Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

      Sweet Jesus has "ransomed people for God from every tribe and language and people and nation."

      :)

      James

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      rgmg50 4 years ago

      A very informative hub. If one does not know the truth the New Age movement can sound very 'right'. This hub explains the difference very clearly. Anybody that reads this hub cannot claim that they did not know. Thank you for an awesome hub.

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      rgmg50--- You are quite welcome. Thank you for taking the time to come by and read my article. I appreciate your thoughtful and kind comments. I look forward to reading some of your writings, which I shall do ASAP.

      Welcome to the HubPages Community. And Merry Christmas!

      james :-)

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      shofarcall 4 years ago

      Hello James, I do not know how long ago you put this hub up, but it is great to see a hub online about the new age, that is so well researched and accurate and lists most of the categories, with an explanation, which fall under the new age umbrella.

      I know the accuracy of your hub as I too was involved in some of these new age practices, yoga etc, a number of years ago. The new age is without a doubt anti-Christ and unfortunately, very seductive, especially to those who are innocently, seeking God, but outside of Christianity because they have either rejected the church or been rejected, or are disillusioned by the churches own practices which are not scriptural. Glad to have discovered you on the hub. voted interesting, useful and up plus now following. God Bless

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      Shikinah 4 years ago from UK

      Shofarcall I agree with what you said about when a person feels rejected or is rejected by their church/congregation, as this is what lead me to listening to non Christian friends who influenced my thinking as to whether the bible was authentic or not. It took them at least five years to finally have me involved in Kundalini meditation, singing bowls, angel cards which all felt very spiritual and freeing, yet I was ignorant to the fact that I was actually ensnared into something darker than I could have ever imagined. What many fail to understand is that, so called spirit guides are fallen Angels those which the bible says were hurled to Earth with satan, knowing they have a short period of time.

      Like Eve was seduced by the lie, the same is true today and the New Age claims to be the "true light" or "love & light" when in fact it is a luciferian

      religion masquerading as the only hope for humans to reach perfection through spiritual evolution by becoming one with the christ, and that we ourselves are Gods, which was like the same lie satan told Adam & Eve "you will not die, you will be like Gods knowing good and bad"

      I'm glad people like you and James are speaking out and exposing the evil of the New Age religion.

      All the best Shikinah.

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      Shikinah 4 years ago from UK

      Hello James sorry I missed your reply to a previous post..Yes there are many tools being used by the New Age. Something many may not be aware of is a book which is very popular amongst the elite called "The Secret" this also requires the individual to ask for anything, a new job, money, love etc

      but you have to ask the "Universe" which is yet another snare along with another book called "Conversations With God" all these things are satanic tools.

      Blessings James & keep up the good work :-)

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      shofarcall 4 years ago

      Hello Shikinah, Good to meet you. Yes, I know of all the aspects which you mentioned in your comment - I am from the UK as well, although I now live in SA. I praise and thank God every day for snatching me out of the darkness of what I was unknowlingly involved in for many years, and bringing me into His light. It is truly rampant in UK and in the States too. It all sounds so "loving." I have repented much for the part I played in promoting those ideas. Although I was not rejected from the church, I was hungry for and seeking God. Thankfully, it does not, as yet, have such a hold in SA but that is changing and there are more and more new age therapies etc etc appearing.

      A lot of apostasy in the churches though. Thank you for your input. God Bless dear sister.

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      Shikinah 4 years ago from UK

      Hello again Sister Shofarcall, when I say rejected I meant not feeling the true love which Christ speaks about in the gospel. But since maturing and no longer a babe, I realise that our test would also come from within the Christian congregation and that the man of lawlessness will use any means, so as to break our integrity and have use stumble and search for truth else where. And you are right, there is a lot of apostasy creeping into the churches, with scripture being twisted to support such apostasy. I only recently read an article about a Christian group in South Africa who professed to raise the dead.

      Satan knows what bait to throw out and knows what will appeal and what won't..This is why we have to be fully awake and keep wearing our spiritual suit of armour, as we know Christ's return is very near and our adversary does not want any of us to remain loyal.

      Blessings

      Shikinah

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      shofarcall— Hello! Welcome to the HubPages Community! I look forward to reading some of your writings, which I shall tend to soon. I love your story as expressed on your Profile Page. It is great the way you are living ecologically and you also offer a wonderful testimony. I have a cousin by marriage, Cliff Retief, who is from South Africa, where he was once a professional tennis player, now living in Nashville. But I digress . . .

      This Hub is only about two months old now. I appreciate you taking the time to come by and read it. I am glad to see that you gave me all those "good" votes and chose to follow me. Thank you for your gracious compliments and your blessings.

      I enjoyed reading your insightful remarks. God Bless You!

      James

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Shikinah—I am grateful for both your comments. I did not know you were still with us on HubPages. I was waiting for you to write some Hubs. Are you going to get to that soon?

      I love how you put this: "What many fail to understand is that, so called spirit guides are fallen Angels those which the bible says were hurled to Earth with Satan . . . Like Eve was seduced by the lie, the same is true today and the New Age claims to be the "true light" or "love & light" when in fact it is a Luciferian religion masquerading as the only hope for humans . . . "

      AMEN!

      I have looked into "The Secret" which to me is a big joke. I was not aware of "Conversations with God" but I just now found a website about it. It is the Occult mixed with pantheism mixed with hedonism mixed with the Theory of Evolution. How weird. And this guy is selling millions of books while his readers stop going to church. Boy, that Devil is wily.

      Thank you very much for coming back to visit. I sincerely appreciate your affirmation, blessings, and encouragement. God Bless You!

      James

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      shofarcall 4 years ago

      Just thought to mention....Conversations with God has been around for a loooong time...at least 12-15 years and follow ons have been written. The Secret has been around for almost as long as well. There are new books like this coming out all the time. Paul Coelho's books kind of fall into this bracket as well - all spinning the same old lie with a bit of mystery and magic thrown in for good measure. And I believe some of the books in and on the Christian shelf bookshops are going the same way. Becoming self-help manuals. No names mentioned but just have a close look on the shelves.

      Thanks for your welcome James. So you must be married to an ex South African?

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      Shikinah 4 years ago from UK

      Hello James,

      Thank you for your reply and comment, as an old friend use to say, satan has gone on holiday as everyone else is doing the work for him lol.

      Wow the Secret is a great babylonian melting pot a mixture of all sorts.

      I would love to write some hubs, but I am still recovering from the removal of a brain tumour which has left me partially paralysed from the waist down, plus I am a naturopath so I don't get a lot of time and only have a limited concentration span. Funny enough they said my tumour could have been there 10 years, and it was right in the spot where the reiki healer had put her hands 10 years previously, could be just a coincidence who knows.

      Thanks again James keep up the good work :-)

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      Shikinah 4 years ago from UK

      Here are some other books which are based on New Age Teachings, I'm not suggesting that anyone read them, but if you have them in your home it's worth discarding them or burning them. This is what God requires of us if we want to be free of any evil influence.

      The Celestine Prophesy

      The Alchemist

      The Art Of Happiness

      A New Earth

      Seven Spiritual Laws Of Success

      The Road Less Travelled

      Jonathan

      Self help books seem to be the foot in the door to New Age Spirituality, as everyone today either wants better health or looking for answers on how to improve themselves spiritually. These books will give you answers

      which are usually based on the "self" seeking inward for the answers.

      They will give you a feeling of independence, freedom of expression and

      the feeling that anything is possible. They teach that there is no bad and how we are more spiritually advanced than we realise, and by applying meditation techniques along with self awareness and a higher state of consciousness we can achieve nirvana.

      There teachings are the exact opposite of Christs teachings. He says "that there is more happiness in giving than there is in receiving"

      Acts 19:18-19 Many of those who were now believers came, confessing and divulging their practices. Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver.

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      Hxprof 4 years ago from Clearwater, Florida

      Shikinah and Shofarcall - You're both right on target. We can walk into a 'Christian' bookstore and find some good material, that is, some bibles and study aids like Greek and Hebrew dictionaries. Otherwise, the writings are new age, self help (pretty much the same stuff) and all other kinds of books that contain errant doctrines, yes, "the dcotrines of men and demons". Shikinah, you're reluctant to name names, but I'll add to your booklist and provide the names of the authros:

      Your Best Life Now - Joel Osteen

      Battlefield of the Mind - Joyce Meyers

      Purpose Driven Life - Rick Warren

      Reposition Yourself: Living Life Without Limits - TD Jakes

      Simple Faith - Charles Swindoll

      I could go on endlessly, but you get the point. Finding books that are filled with sound doctrine from the Word of God is difficult, but there are some out there.

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      shofarcall 4 years ago

      Hi Hxprof,

      It was me who did not name Christian names. I just stick to names I can trust. Mostly people from a bygone age with sound doctrine and a deep love of the Lord - like Andrew Murray, C.S. Lewis, J.C. Ryle,Derek Prince, Oswald Chambers, Charles Spurgeon. All before the time of prosperity ministries and making people feel good, warm and fuzzy. There are some modern writers I may read but they are few and far between. 1 very good author for those interested in God's relationship with Israel is Peter Tsukahira (Christian) who is married to a Messianic Jewess and they have lived and ministered in Haifa, Mount Carmel since the early 80's. Book is called God's Tsunami. I agree with you re above list. I was shocked a few days ago visiting a long time servant of the Lord to find her reading 'Your Best life Now' by Joel Osteen!

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      Hxprof 4 years ago from Clearwater, Florida

      Shorfarcall - Sorry about the mixup with your name. I'll check out Peter Tsukahira as you suggested. I'm in agreement with the other authors you mention. There are a few more of sound doctrine that need to be named: Watchman Nee, Jessie Penn Lewis (look for her unabridged, original works), David Wilkerson (95% sound. He was a devout man of God being used mightily before he suddenly passed), Charles Prelow and John Sanford, but with Sanford I can only recommend the book Healing the Wounded Spirit; since that time the prosperity message has crept into his teachings.....hopefully he'll repent.

      Best to you sister.

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      Shikinah 4 years ago from UK

      Hello Hxprof, you are correct I did not mention the authors names of the books I listed, it wasn't deliberate just didn't think they were that important. I very rarely read Christian books, the bible has everything I need and more. I prefer to study bible prophesy and tie it in with events which are happening today. There is no author which can add to the teachings of Christ. The last book I read which I found beneficial was the "Two Babylons" by Alexander Hislop which Identifies many Christian practices with those practiced in Babylon, this sort of information is beneficial as it helps us identify the origin of certain practices like Easter with it's eggs and bunnies, the christmas tree, holly etc.

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      shofarcall 4 years ago

      Hello Hxprof, 2nd time I am typing this!!! lost the 1st comment???

      Yes, I too have Jessie Penne Lewis unabridged version of War on the saints and a few others. Read a bit of Watchman Nee. Haven't read the others mentioned but know of Wilkerson. Watched a great sermon yesterday by Leonard Ravenhill. What a man of God. I pray that God will raise up men such as these in our generation as well. Amen.

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      shofarcall— You are quite welcome. Thank you for coming back by to make both of your comments a few days ago. No, I am not married to an ex South African---an ex South African married my cousin. A wonderful fella, he is.

      I am not familiar with Paul Coelho but I surely agree with you that there is "a lot of apostasy in the churches." I attended a Methodist Church for a while until I found the adult Sunday School class studying one Bishop Spong and praising his demonic ideas. I could hardly believe it.

      And how about this Eckhart Tolle guy and the millions of people hanging on his every word?

      james :-)

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      shofarcall 4 years ago

      I have heard a lot about Eckhart Tolle, and yes there seem to be millions hanging on his every word - is it Christians who are reading his work? Is he supposed to be Christian?

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Shikinah--- You are most welcome. Thank you for coming back to visit. I appreciate both comments you posted here a few days ago.

      I am so sorry to hear that you are "still recovering from the removal of a brain tumour which has left me partially paralysed from the waist down."

      Oh, my goodness. I am going to pray for your comfort and healing right now . . .

      I hope you feel better real soon. God Bless You.

      Brother James

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      shofarcall 4 years ago

      Hello Shikinah,

      I somehow missed that comment from you until reading James's post above.

      I shall be praying for you in our Lords throne room for a full recovery. I am sure everyone misses your hubs too. By the grace of God and His mercy we come through the tribulations. God Bless

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Shikinah--- Thank you for the additional comments. I appreciate your contributions to our discussion. Thankfully, I have never read any of the book titles you mentioned. I am aware of them. I just now went and read reviews of each of them. As you said so well:

      "Self help books seem to be the foot in the door to New Age Spirituality, as everyone today either wants better health or looking for answers on how to improve themselves spiritually. These books will give you answers which are usually based on the "self" seeking inward for the answers. . . . They teach that there is no bad and how we are more spiritually advanced than we realise, and by applying meditation techniques along with self awareness and a higher state of consciousness we can achieve nirvana."

      God Bless You!

      James :-)

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Hxprof— At first glance, I thought you were recommending these books! :)

      You know, I think we have always agreed on everything until now. But I am very surprised that you think these books are sinister. I can see the problem with Osteen. My own pastor, Erwin Lutzer, sees serious problems with Osteen's theology (or lack thereof). However, I attended an appearance by him at the Orlando Arena to see what it is all about and yes, he is off base but evil? I don't think so. God may be using him to bring people into a realization of Him through this ministry, which attracts folks traditional churches may not be, and if the Holy Spirit moves on their hearts, they could easily start reading their Bibles. I believe Osteen is genuine and a Christian.

      Joyce Meyer I do not know a lot about but at least one fine Christian woman I know recommended her "Battlefield of the Mind" book and though I didn't read it, it had my friend fired up about Christ and seemed to have no adverse effects on her.

      TD Jakes? I have not read his books. I have only read about him and seen him preach on television a few times. Gosh, he seems like a sincere Christian to me. I don't think we can reasonably demand perfection from flesh and blood men, even if they are preachers. I think we have enough to fight against with Oprah, Tolle, Williamson, Chopra, and all these others, who are surely animated by the spirit of this world.

      I have read the "Purpose Driven Life" by Rick Warren and you really lost me here. I read it numerous times and the Holy Spirit that dwells in me set off no alarm bells. I think it is a great book for Christians. In fact, I bought and gave away a couple dozen copies of it. There is no question in my mind that Rick Warren serves Jesus and not the Devil.

      All that said, I gotta admit that you really threw me when you included the wonderful man, Chuck Swindoll, on your list. My saintly Aunt Carol, the finest Christian I know in this world, has Swindoll up there with Billy Graham at the top of her list of great Christian preachers. I have listened to Pastor Swindoll on the radio countless times and never once heard him say anything untoward in regard to the Gospel message or the Word of God.

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      shofarcall 4 years ago

      I don't know Charles Swindoll, but I would not read any of the other books on Hxprof's list either.

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      shofarcall— Thank you for your excellent remarks addressed to my friend, Hxprof. I must confess that I was not familiar with Derek Prince or J.C. Ryle but I just now went and read about them. Oswald Chambers' book is one of my all time favorites, "My Utmost for His Highest." Charles Spurgeon was an awesome man. I wrote about him in this Hub:

      https://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/The-Secon...

      And if you admire Andrew Murray, you might like this article of mine:

      https://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/Missionar...

      I don't mean to be tooting my own horn here, but based on the Christian figures you admire most I might recommend this:

      https://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/D-L-MOODY

      I am not familiar with Peter Tsukahira. But if you like him he must be alright. You strike me as a lady of discernment. God Bless You!

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Hxprof— Oh yes, Watchman Nee is awesome. I was not acquainted with Jessie Penn-Lewis. David Wilkerson, Great man of God. Charles Prelow? I don't know who that is and can't seem to find information about him. And are you referring you John Sanford or John Sandford?

      james

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      shofarcall 4 years ago

      Hi James,

      Well thank you. I certainly hope that I have developed some discernment - I can't bear all this prosperity preaching. And '10 Ways to.......'

      The deep, searching hunger for the Lord that is present in the books mentioned, by the Andrew Murrays of the time is so much more my cup of tea, read alongside ones Bible. Peter Tsukahira has only written this one book and I believe it is God inspired.

      It is regarding end-time prophecy and Israel. A real eye-opener.

      I will take the time to read above articles of yours. Watch out for comments on them. God Bless. PS I read My Utmost for His Highest daily as do thousands maybe even millions round the world, daily.

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Shikinah— I appreciate your contributions to our discussion. I do not read much from contemporary Christian authors either. I do like Erwin Lutzer very much.

      I love to read works by CS Lewis and I enjoy books by Francis Schaeffer, too. The Bible I read every day. It is indispensable, of course. I have not read anything by Alexander Hislop.

      Thank you for engaging in our little conversation here about First Things.

      James :-)

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      shofarcall— Thank you for the trio of excellent comments you posted here a few days back. I was not familiar with Leonard Ravenhill, but I found a page of fabulous quotes by him. I'll give you a few examples:

      "If weak in prayer, we are weak everywhere."

      "Men give advice; God gives guidance."

      "A sinning man stops praying, a praying man stops sinning"

      "My main ambition in life is to be on the devil's most wanted list."

      "If Jesus had preached the same message that ministers preach today, He would never have been crucified."

      Great stuff! :D

      You write: "I have heard a lot about Eckhart Tolle, and yes there seem to be millions hanging on his every word - is it Christians who are reading his work?"

      Some do, yes. But most of his readers are the women who worship Oprah and will follow here wherever she goes. Like her, most of them are former Christians.

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      shofarcall 4 years ago

      Those are great quotes!!! I have heard one or two in his sermons. I joined Lifegates greatamericanfast website and he always has some fantastic sermons up there by Tozer, Ravenhill etc.

      I think some prayers for Oprah and her gang may be in order.

      Thank you for above quotes. God Bless

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      Hxprof 4 years ago from Clearwater, Florida

      James - Jesse Penn-Lewis was a participant in the Wales revival of the early 1900s. She wrote extensively in the years after the revival became derailed; she shares insight into why that happened. One of her most noteworthy writings is War on the Saints.

      Many mainline Christians reject some of what Penn-Lewis has to say in this book because their doctrines won’t allow them to accept it. Thus we have this book published in both a revised format (‘errors’ removed) and in the original, unabridged format. While I see that she is at times a bit dogmatic, the book is essentially sound in the unabridged format.

      Yes, I misspelled John's last name; it's Sandford. Alas, I misspelled Charles' last name also; it's Pretlow

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      shofarcall 4 years ago

      I also made a typo Hxprof. I meant to say, as I mentioned to you in an earlier comment that I am acquainte diwth Jesse Penn Lewis and do have her unabridged version 'War on the Saints.' I did not find it an easy book either.....began to see Satan around every corner! God Bless

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      Hxprof 4 years ago from Clearwater, Florida

      A curve ball! Sorry about that James. Let me explain a bit better where I’m coming from.

      First, I consider all those I mentioned to be fellow Christians. Yep, brother Osteen, sister Myer, brother Jakes, etc. I’ve no reason to believe they’re not Christians, but I’ve every reason to believe they’ve bought into false doctrine. In that way they’re deceived. But don’t we all struggle with doctrine at times? Yes, it’s part of the process of growing up into Christ; we learn discernment. The problem with these folks is that they’re teaching their false doctrines to millions of the flock, and the flock is taking it for sound doctrine. There’s no discernment on the part of teacher or flock.

      You said “I am very surprised that you think these books are sinister.” I won’t say they’re sinister. Can some truth be found within their pages? Yes. Can I find any sound doctrine beyond the very basic tenants of Christian faith? No. Any other doctrines discussed by these authors beyond basic Christian tenants are ALMOST certain to be false. If the doctrines are false, then they’re not of God.

      I think you and your pastor are right on target to be concerned with Osteen. Is God using him in some way? Perhaps so, but if a friend wanted me to recommend an evangelist he could listen to in order to gain an understanding about what it means to be saved and what to expect after receiving Christ, Osteen’s name wouldn’t enter my mind.

      Sister Meyer’s book Battlefield of the Mind has as its premise that the Christian’s heart is made pure at salvation and that it’s only the Christian's mind that needs to be cleansed. This is a false premise. Jesus spoke clearly about this in Matthew 15:10-20. The same is said in Jeremiah 17:9-10. This book, like others written by her, is founded on false doctrine.

      Regards Rick Warren, man, where do I begin?? I too read the Purpose Driven Life. Honest, at first read I thought it was an OK book, though it didn’t strike me as really helpful. Later on I took a closer look at it and found it to be lacking. I think the best way to relate my misgivings about Rick is to provide a link sent to me recently by a brother: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxY3VbBHTkY&fea... . It’s a long video but well worth the time.

      Brother Swindoll is one that I might recommend to a friend as someone who could help him understand what it means to be saved, but I’d have to recommend another ministry for him to obtain help in growing into the fullness of Christ. That’s what is lacking in Swindoll’s ministry. Billy Graham has commented that he regrets not providing resources for discipleship mentoring for those who were saved during his ministry. A full understanding of what our salvation means for our lives is missing in most churches and ministries today.

      What I hear being taught by most is a powerless, watered down Gospel at best. At worst, that same Gospel is intertwined with doctrines that subvert Christ’s purpose for the life of the believer, leaving most of us at risk of readily falling away. The harder teachings of Christ are ignored or glossed over. Christ told His first 12 disciples to, “Make disciples of all nations, teaching them to obey all I’ve commanded you”. They weren’t instructed to ‘save people of all nations’ – that job belongs to the Holy Spirit. Yes, they preached the Gospel; then they tended to the lives of those saved in order to “equip the saints for the work of ministry” (Eph. 4:12), not leaving the saints as babes, but helping them to grow up into the fullness of Christ (Eph.4:13-14).

      A final thought and I’ll get out. Brothers Osteen, Jakes and Warren have all appeared on Oprah. This is not a good sign brother.

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      shofarcall 4 years ago

      Hxprof, I could not have said it any better. I could, but won't add any to what you have said as it is unnecessary. God Bless.

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      shikinah 4 years ago

      Thank you James for your reply, I haven't read any of the books you have mentioned, in fact I rarely read any so called christian based books, as I believe a lot of the New Age philosophies have creeped in or have been deliberately introduced to lure christians away from the true teachings of Christ. Many are wolves in sheeps clothing, who teach twisted things. When I have watched some of these evangelisers on tv, I feel a chill down my spine, I once saw one where the pope was present and there were people from all denominations of christianity. There was a rock and roll band present singing praises like it was some concert. I thought what would Jesus do if he were here today, would he join in or would he over turn the tables as he did in Jerusalem? To be honest Christianity frightens me more than the New Age, at least with the New Age you can identify it and see it's true identity, but with the counterfeit man of lawlessness apostate Christians those who are turning to Christ will find it very hard to distinguish the truth. And as Hxpof said, anyone which go's on Oprah is sinister, this woman has confessed in front of millions, that Jesus Chist is not the only way. The bible says we shouldn't even invite such a person into our homes let alone help spread her evil web of deceit to trap others.

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Shofarcall--- You are quite welcome. Thank you for the trio of comments you made a couple days ago. I had not heard of "Lifegate's 'Great American Fast'" but I just now went over to take a peek and I saw you there. Great idea.

      Yes, prayers are definitely in order for Oprah and her gang.

      I love the old time preachers too. I have written Hubs about Jonathan Edwards, John Wesley, and William Wilberforce, as well as John Calvin, Martin Luther (2 actually on him), John Wycliffe, and Jan Hus.

      I appreciate the visits and your blessings.

      James :-)

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Hxprof--- Thank you for the corrections on the misspellings. There is a famous Christian writer John Sanford and one who is John Sandford.

      I have the Jesse Penn-Lewis unabridged version of "War on the Saints" in my Amazon queue now. I will look for a used copy and read it straightaway, based on your recommnedation. I read about it and it sounds good and it seems to be right up my alley.

      Thank you for the insights.

      James

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      shofarcall-- Thank you for coming back by to post a pair of additional comments. I surely appreciate your participation in our little conversation here. I look forward to reading your Hubs!

      James :)

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      Kaie Arwen 4 years ago

      :-D Well said............. there's nothing I can add to what you've already said here, barring the fact that Grammy told me when I was just a little girl that horoscopes, fortune telling, crystal balls, and even Halloween were all Satanic, and I needed to NEVER go there........... I never did.

      On another note, an extremely enlightening book (in reference to your photo of Oprah) is "Oprah, Miracles, and the New Earth; A Critique...... by Pastor Erwin Lutzer. You might want to add the link for it on Amazon............. ~ LYAAF

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Hxprof— Thank you for coming back to explicate "where you are coming from." No apology is necessary to me. Yes, we are all capable of struggling with doctrine sometimes. No man, even the best preacher, is going to always be right in his writings or sermons or other self-expressions.

      I think that specific books are written for specific reasons for specific audiences by Christians. I do not think that every Christian book written has to fully explain the Gospel. There are plenty of books that do that. One I really like is "What is the Gospel" by Greg Gilbert.

      CS Lewis wrote only one "Mere Christianity" but that doesn't mean there isn't also room for his "Screwtape Letters" to teach certain lessons for certain people who need that lesson.

      You wrote that "if a friend wanted me to recommend an evangelist he could listen to in order to gain an understanding about what it means to be saved and what to expect after receiving Christ, Osteen’s name wouldn’t enter my mind."

      Well, me neither. While I would not recommend him nor would I damn him. I'll let God sort out what to do with Mr. Osteen.

      I think "The Purpose Driven Life" is an awesome book. We must remember that it is not "Rick Warren explains the Gospel." The reason the book is great is because it speaks directly to the great evil of OUR TIME, that is central to the New Agers: Narcissism. Our culture indoctrinates people incessantly: "IT IS ALL ABOUT YOU!" Rick Warren's book is a much needed rebuke of that notion.

      I watched 12 minutes of that video you were kind enough to provide a link to. I do not have the time to spend two hours watching it. But I appreciate you sending it to me. Some people just like to tear down Christians—even other Christians!

      The gist of Warren's book is that You Were Planned for God's Pleasure (Worship); You Were Formed for God's Family (Fellowship); You Were Created to Become Like Christ (Discipleship); You Were Shaped for Serving God (Ministry); You Were Made for a Mission (Mission).

      I say AMEN!!! There is absolutely nothing unbiblical about that message. And boy, is it needed today.

      Warren references the Bible 350 times and quotes 1200 Bible verses. What do you want? The whole New Testament? We have that already.

      Now, I certainly agree with you that: "Brothers Osteen, Jakes and Warren have all appeared on Oprah. This is not a good sign brother."

      You write: "Billy Graham has commented that he regrets not providing resources for discipleship mentoring for those who were saved during his ministry. A full understanding of what our salvation means for our lives is missing in most churches and ministries today."

      I agree wholeheartedly. That is why Warren's book is only one small piece of the puzzle: It is not about you. It is about God's purpose for your life and HE has one!

      That does not explain the entire Gospel, of course. But I think that part was missing in action until his book came along. A lot of Christianity had become focused on ME; how much I enjoy church here or there, what can this church do for ME; what will this book do for ME; what will this worship service do for ME.

      I sure appreciate you engaging me on these issues. You have enlightened me as to some of the dangers of following ANY man very closely. You made a lot of excellent points. I think I see a bit wider avenue to God than you do is all. I believe that when I get to heaven, there will be Catholics, Pentecostals, Presbyterians, Eastern Orthodox and Evangelicals there and no longer arguing amongst themselves about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      shikinah— You are quite welcome. As you said so well, "a lot of the New Age philosophies have crept in or have been deliberately introduced to lure Christians away from the true teachings of Christ. Many are wolves in sheep's clothing, who teach twisted things."

      AMEN

      You wrote: "with the counterfeit man of lawlessness-apostate Christians-those who are turning to Christ will find it very hard to distinguish the truth."

      Yes, indeed. That is so true. And sad and dangerous and tragic.

      And this that you wrote is superbly brilliant and discerningly wise: "Oprah is sinister, this woman has confessed in front of millions, that Jesus Christ is not the only way. The bible says we shouldn't even invite such a person into our homes let alone help spread her evil web of deceit to trap others."

      Thank you for sharing your insights with us. God Bless You!

      James

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Kaie Arwen— Hello again, mon cheri. I am tickled pink that you have been reading my Hubs lately and leaving such wonderful remarks for me to savor. I'd say your Grammy was a wise woman. I agree with her that it is best to avoid the Dark Side. There is no ultimate good to be found there. Only deception.

      I have read that fabulous book by Pastor Lutzer, based on your recommendation. Before I read it, I never knew just how sinister Oprah has been and is. No wonder the country is in trouble!

      I actually understood your cryptic acronym this time! :-)

      I am quite proud of myself. Abstract reasoning was always my only downfall on IQ tests.

      JJRBJ

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      hhunterr 4 years ago from Highway 24

      You never cheat the reader, James. Very complete, of course, but even more so, I feel I don't have to read with filters to sort out agendas, PC talk, or incomplete understanding. Now if I could get a computer to catch up on Crockett, Lewis, etc., at home!

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      Kaie Arwen 4 years ago

      MM~ Practice makes perfect! YK

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      hhunterr--- Thank you very much for taking the time to come by and read my Hubs. I appreciate your kind comments, and I will come over ASAP to check out your articles as well. I hope you do get a computer for your home soon.

      James

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      PAUL BAKER UK--- I loved the old Thor comic books when I was a youth. As far as the Nordic gods, I would say that they were real beings, as in demons.

      Thank you for taking the time to read my article. I appreciate your comments. :-)

      james

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Kaie Arwen--- Thank you!! Thank you very much! :-)

      YAESAILYJ!

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      Sallie B Middlebrook PhD 4 years ago from Texas, USA

      This was a needed education for me. As usual, you've provided a depth of information on this topic to illuminate it, no matter how one might want to look at it. I don't know how you find the time to go so in-depth, but the work you put into this is evident. Kudos to you for being so conscientious and thorough in the articles you bring to Hub Pages. (I laughed at the caption underneath Oprah's picture! I so understand it, even though I still admire much of what she has accomplished.)

      I've heard a lot about "New Age" religion and "New Age" in general, but always just skimmed over it for lack of interest. I think I'm too "old-fashioned" to be too impressed with something just because it has "New Age" attached to it as a label. I'm a firm believer in the Holy Trinity, and--for me at least, Christianity is "ageless." I don't need a replacement for it. The thought of something like this catching on with a lot of people is kind of frightening to me.

      This is where you and I always "click." You wrote: "This salvation of which I speak is not an experience of self, a meditative and intuitive dwelling within oneself, but the forgiveness of sin, being lifted out of profound ambivalences in oneself and the calming of nature by the gift of communion with a loving God." So true, and so "all that I need" in my God.

      You wrote: " The way to salvation is not found simply in a self-induced transformation of consciousness, but in a liberation from sin and its consequences which then leads us to struggle against sin in ourselves and in the society around us." All I can say to that is, "Amen."

      Great job on this Hub James.

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      Peggy Woods 4 years ago from Houston, Texas

      Hi James,

      This was an interesting look at New Age Religion through your descriptions and I finally had to give up reading the lengthy comments. Not sure what you meant by posting the title under Oprah's photo since all I know of her is that she tries to help people and has done a lot of good through her charitable actions. There are many world religions many of them pre-dating Christianity and some of them continuing on to this day. Good and bad to be learned from many of them. I do not pretend to be any kind of expert. It is no wonder that you are getting lots of comments.

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      shikihah 4 years ago

      Hello Peggy I just want explain why Oprah's influence is so dangerous. Unlike witch craft or paganism which is an obvious practice, the New Age teaching is not open at all, it misleads it's followers to believe in love and light, and to search within for the christ spirit, while another sector will teach the coming appearance of "the christ" these teachings are very misleading to those who are genuinely looking for the truth. The love which Jesus Christ taught was not about the self, the love which Oprah teaches is that of the yogis, spirit guides, those who predict the arrival of their christ which is the Maitraya who will be a false messiah. Her teachings are to mislead and not lead followers in the right direction. There are many who do good by there charitable works, over here in Britain we had a Sir Jimmy Saville who was friends with royalty and even received a knighthood for his charitable deeds, but he was a pervert and paedophile, the bible says these individuals would appear as an angel of light and mislead many. Yes there are good and bad to be learnt by many of them, but the bad can often leave long lasting damage, especially when there is an ulterior motive and that's to bring about a new religion which will no longer recognise the true teachings of Jesus Christ but to introduce a counterfeit illumination which will capture the hearts of those who want a spiritual freedom which involves being answerable to nobody but the self which I may say is steeped in imperfection.

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      drmiddlebrook— Thank you for taking the time to come over and read my article. I sincerely appreciate your awesome accolades and lovely laudations. It is a distinct pleasure to read your outstanding commentary about "New Age Religion."

      I am grateful that you recognized the amount of time I invest in research and writing my Hubs. This makes me smile. :D

      It is probably a good thing that you have not been too interested in checking out New Age for yourself. I would think that saved you some unnecessary troubles. I am kind of old-fashioned, too. I hear you there, my dear. Yes, Christianity is "ageless," as you say. I have heard young folks say, "Well, Christ was good back then, for those olden times." But His message was radically out of place during the times He walked this earth. No one had ever heard anything like it. His missives are out of time, and for all time, and for all peoples.

      God Bless You!

      James

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      Sallie B Middlebrook PhD 4 years ago from Texas, USA

      Hey James, if you really think about it, Jesus' message is probably--as you said, "radically out of place" today as well. The truth, which is what Jesus taught, will probably always be radically out of place with the world, don't you think? You're a man of such great depth, James, I would love it if you would do a Hub on that idea!

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      Peggy W— Hello there! There are quite a few comments on this Hub, that's for sure. 150 of them, I think.

      The Oprah thing is this, she has jettisoned the Christian Faith that she was taught in her youth in order to be "cool" and go along with all this New Age stuff, behind which is usually the Occult. Right at the end of my article I have a link to an awesome book that explains the whole Oprah phenomenon better than I can in this short space. The book, "Oprah, Miracles, and the New Earth" is awesome. And it is eye-opening to come to comprehend how the queen of television has been used by the forces of darkness to lead millions of American women astray.

      Anyway, I thank you very much for reading my Hub. I appreciate your always outstanding comments.

      james :-)

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      shikinah— Thank you for your outstanding comments. You are truly a wise and discerning soul.

      I could not agree with you more about the dangerous, pernicious influence of Oprah Winfrey. As you put it so succinctly "The love which Jesus Christ taught was not about the self." AMEN.

      And yes, there is an ulterior motive behind New Age Religion, which itself is a spawn of the spirit of this world, and as you keenly observed the motive is "to bring about a new religion which will no longer recognize the true teachings of Jesus Christ but to introduce a counterfeit illumination which will capture the hearts of those who want a spiritual freedom which involves being answerable to nobody but the self which I may say is steeped in imperfection."

      Superb explication! I surely appreciate you and your words.

      James

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      James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago

      drmiddlebrook— Yes, I do agree with you that "The truth, which is what Jesus taught, will probably always be radically out of place with the world."

      I appreciate your excellent idea but I am going to step back from HubPages for a while and race to the finish line to publish my first book. HubPages takes up a lot of my time. I get over 100 comments per week and have been responding to all of them. You can tell by my Author Score that HubPages does not really want me here at all.

      I think I need to block out the world for a month or two and get my book done. Then, I'll be back. :-)

      God Bless You!

      James

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      shikinah 4 years ago

      Hello James,

      Thank you for your kind comments, it's a shame my wise and discerning soul was gained after such a traumatic ordeal associated with the New Age,

      hence my loathing for this religion. All the best with your book brother, don't over do it, you need to take time out as too much mental alertness and stress is not good for our health. You always reply to each and every post, which is truly commendable.

      God Bless

      Shikinah

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      Pastor Dr. Carlotta Boles 4 years ago from BREAKOUT MINISTRIES, INC. KC

      You did alot of research on this and I am proud of you!!! AMEN! Voted up and very informational!!

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      Willette 4 years ago from Michigan

      This hub is interestingly awesome and beautiful and long and chock full of the truth. Anyone wanting to know about the new age movement need only to read this hub. You have been very thorough, and informative in your coverage of the topic and provide much opportunity for eyes to be opened to the truth. Blessings to you and may this hub reach far and wide beyond the hubpges community. Thumbs up awesome beautiful and sharing.

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      MrHunter 4 years ago from Highway 24

      Godspeed, James. Please take this as encouragment. Don't feel you need to reply! Happy Easter.

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      Robert P 4 years ago from Canada

      Great job giving an overview of this movement. I think it is a shame that many people lack proper historical and theological context to properly understand these new age religions and what they may be getting into. Some are aggressively marketed and normalized by mass media.

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      Silva Hayes 4 years ago from Spicewood, Texas

      So cool about the book, James! No need to reply here either. Concentrate on your book.

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      Ravi and Swastha 4 years ago from London, Canada

      What understanding I had in life has been well said.

      All religion in general says that dissolve in oneness & surrender to the DIVINE. By this way you would attain enlightenment.

      In order to preach this truth, Enlightened Masters/Spritual Leaders who were representative of God came to this earth, preached the message of God to people at any point of time and tried balancing the negativity; for this world to run peacefully.

      This hub inspires me to write more on Meditation & Super consciousness. I would do my bit for this society.

      Really a very good hub.

      Thanks James.

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      Electro-Denizen 3 years ago from Wales, UK

      Though the attention to various details in this hub is great, I feel like the overall premise is sort of founded on something that is very amorphous. The term 'New Age' covers so many things, really, so I'm not sure it's possible to condemn 'new age' in that way. It means so many different things to different people.

      And as to the specialness of Christianity, all I can say, is that I've spent time with Buddhists, Hindus and Moslems, and the constantly curious thing, is that humans can only ever operate from the stand point which was delivered to them through their culture or peers etc. Thus, I've heard very succinct arguments from various religious positions that do a good job at detailing why their way, really is THE right way. Of course it is, it has to be, otherwise the personal belief system would be foundless.

      My personal view is that so many Christians talk about love and so on, while abusing God's gift of creation and pouring scorn on his creatures, and devouring them for lunch or dinner, exclusively for the sake of taste pleasure. I don't get that, it's so barbaric. Having zero compassion. Also, it's so unhealthy.

      If 'New Age' also includes the increase in Buddhist and Hindu teachings (both vegetarian), then I'd have to say, that's fantastic. As the Buddha said: The eating of meat extinguishes the flame of great compassion. The wholesale abuse of the animal kingdom is directly linked to mankind's current dire predicament.

      An interesting hub to read!

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      Michael-Milec 3 years ago

      Good evening .

      James brother, what a masterpiece of several hubs in one and a double as many out in comments a curriculum in several subjects. SIGH. After hours of reading,-re-reading , with closed eyes , speechless, I asked the Holy spirit for assistance if and what to say.

      One can feel the spiritual demonic oppression while reading individual religion names conspiring agains the Lord YHWH and His Anointed One, as you've summarized " the ultimate purpose of the New Age movement - it must be preached that Jesus of Nazareth was not Christ." It's a battle for the soul of a man once estranged to His Creator, now having Way through Jesus redemptive act to come back via faith to not only have the fellowship with the Heavenly Father and the LIFE ETERNAL, but now and here under the same anointing as Jesus' continually destroying the devil's work. See, the Satan wants to eliminate any trace of " Christian " religion because in essence every believer, the child of God '" christianos"- anointedians , we are endowed by the power of the Holy Spirit anointed to do the same deeds of the Kingdom as Jesus Christ has showed and taught His disciples to do. This faith in Jesus and the power in His name is dangerous "religion" actually much more then any other religion, because Satan and Satanists do not seek to destroy any of the religions under his control, as they try this movement of supernatural spiritual kingdom of God within the hearts of His people…

      Obviously, the New age movement is apparently gaining some territory, only where the look -warm believers ( Christians ) ceased to pray and speak out loud the Name of Jesus any given opportunity, using it every time when one says my Lord,my Savior Jesus Christ, my God. In His Name we do have Victory and satanists know that.

      Voted up, awesome and very useful.

      May the Lord bless you and keep you in His peace.

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      Drive By Quipper 3 years ago from Wrong Side of Town

      It's like the old sign going into Myrtle Beach. All roads lead to Mammie"s Kitchen.

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      Rod Martin Jr 3 years ago from Cebu, Philippines

      James, you bring up some important points in this piece. But some New Age beliefs include a corrupted form of Christianity, too. Ego, and the psychopathic elite who feed off of it, love to blur the lines in order to confuse people. But because they use some of Christianity does not mean that Christianity is bad. Stop basing your logic on simple, mechanistic associations.

      Many Christians blur the lines, too. Not everything you say, here, is truth. Your intent is good, to bring people back to God and Christ. But that requires humility and love, something on which we can all improve.

      Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. You dismiss Buddha. Why? Because people revere him to the exclusion of Christ? Much of what Gautama Siddhartha taught is exactly what Christ taught. No different. Even the Beatitudes.

      Jesus is the leader. He is first amongst God's children. There can be no doubt about that. However, I have read that even Buddha said that there would be a red haired one who would exceed him in spiritual standing. I've known some Jewish people with reddish hair. Did Jesus fit this description? Was he the teacher who was to be greater than Buddha? I think this is possible. Because of Buddha's love and sacrifice, he may well have been "following Christ" in the truest, spiritual sense.

      James, you do a good job of pointing out some of the pitfalls being used by the NWO gang, but then you fall into a few of those pits, yourself. Perhaps even I have made similar mistakes. We need to remain humble so that we may become aware of such potential flaws in ourselves. Let love guide us. Every other great spiritual teacher was not a source of evil. Some may have gotten some things wrong, but they got much of it right. Why can't we celebrate that fact? We need to be able to recognize the good and separate it from the bad. You don't do that with literal labels. Please reread 2 Cor. 3:6 -- the letter leads to death; only the spirit of scripture leads to everlasting life.

      One Christian, in a YouTube video, said that Kabbalah is New Age and an abomination. Why? Because Madonna, the "material girl," is into it. The New World Order corrupts everything to play on our egos.

      Kabbalah, according to the early Jewish mystics, was here at the beginning. Some Christian scholars claim that Kabbalah didn't start until the 12th century. Who is right? During my research, I found the Kabbalists' "Tree of Life" matrix embedded in 2 chapters of Genesis. In other words, those of the ancient Kabbalah wrote at least part of the Bible. So, the NWO is wrong. Kabbalah is not New Age. Their perversion of Cabala is New Age. Their perversion of Christianity is New Age.

      Again, don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. Stop using generalities (labels) to pigeonhole things. That's what the NWO does to divide us. Some degree of categorizing is useful, but don't go overboard with it. Labels are not always accurate. Labels are like the basin containing both the baby and the bathwater. It takes a little more care to get it right. Less judgment and more discernment.

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      Robert E Smith 3 years ago from Rochester, New York

      Hey Jim. I learned a bunch. Thank you as always. I need to read your article on Ms. Oprah because I know she does stuff I disagree with vehemently but the title you gave her makes me wish to read your article on her. As always, MFH. (my favorite historian)

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      Artin2010 3 years ago from Northwestern Florida, Gulfcoast

      Hello James. it's been a long time. Just read this and some of the comments. Wow, awesome good work. It's true, you can't help but notice the word (self) and the connection to New Age Religion. A very interesting read for me. Be true to thy self! Two thumbs up ! :-) Blessings to you hub friend..

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      James John Bell 3 years ago from Union, Washington

      James, pretty impressive job to get many of the components of the "new age" meme into one place. I did not get the sense while reading this however that you have in fact read Blavatsky, or Steiner?

      The reason being is because theosophy and the resulting off shoots like anthroposophy are classified in my religious studies class as 'Christian' in the sub category of protestant (using the same criteria Mormonism is categorized as christian and protestant by the same academics). For example Steiner links anthroposophy with the archangel Michael in much of his writings, heavily quotes scripture, and puts forth an esoteric Christian praxis. This mirrors the interests of Christian fantasy writers like J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis.

      Blavatsky, Steiner, etc. all write about the overthrow of Christianity's original mission, the summary of which goes something like this: from around 0-300 AD Christianity was very revolutionary causing wide scale political upheaval. The Roman Empire adopted Christianity, co-opted the religion, outlawed possession of scripture (even little pieces written down), and removed the community of Christians and replaced them with appointed religious leaders.

      This continues over centuries with various revolts that try to free the original message of Christ, i.e. Cathars, Templars, etc. Then with the invention of the printing press "illegal" english translations of the Latin bible are printed and the distribution causes wide scale revolt among peasants as they learn the true meaning of Christianity and see that the church is not living up to that message. Revolts grow more widespread, eventually there is the protestant reformation. Protestant Princes battle Catholic Kings for a few hundred years, the dust settles and once again politics has transplanted the original message of Christ. The theosophists research this history, and an entire connected cosmology, and work at disseminating an anti-instutional christian-based dogma..

      My point is that it is not as black and white as your overview of New Age beliefs makes it out. The main folks you reference all write about the suppressed teachings of Christ and in their lifetimes worked to wake people up about an ongoing suppression. Sure they're spiritualists and now made into occultists, but they would all swear at having accepted Christ into their lives, etc.

      Anyway, research the Wycliffe Bible, and how possession of a translation of the bible or even a piece of paper with scripture on it during the Middle Ages would get you burned at the stake for being a 'witch'. It would appear that you are promoting the same sort of attitude towards these "new age" people, their crime being that they tried to liberate Christian teachings from institutional control. Read some of their actual writings, not just the cherry picked out of context stuff cycling around the internet. Go visit a Waldorf school, etc. I think you would see, at the very least, that most new age folks are actually oblivious to these "new age founders" actual Christian beliefs as well, and have wildly misappropriated them.

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      Marie Flint 3 years ago from Jacksonville, Florida USA

      Per your encouragement on Facebook, I have taken the time to read this article. I agree and disagree with various parts.

      Jesus himself performed alchemy when he turned the water into wine, and he has said others will do greater things because "I go unto the Father."

      One story in the Bible suggests reincarnation when the disciples ask the master who did sin--this man or his parents that he should be born blind? The man was born blind and did not have the opportunity to sin unless reincarnation were a possibility. Of course, if the parents had, the blindness might possibly be interpreted as a punishment for their transgression in their fruit. Jesus, of course, answered that neither situation was the case, but that the works of God might be done.

      Astrology is a system, not a belief. At least one of the wise men who attended Jesus' birth used it to determine the location and time of the birth. The "star" was very real and very bright. Of course, any system can be abused. Unfortunately, some persons consult "the stars" as if the signs were inevitable.

      The "divine feminine" does not replace the Father, rather the Alpha and Omega are side by side in balance. (Personally, I can't imagine nature not being a part of God's kingdom.) Again, the concept can be abused by denying the Alpha principle.

      "Self" with a capital "s" is not the same as "self," the human ego prone to err. Rather, it is the pure essence of God perfectly balanced in wisdom, power, and love.

      You have obviously done a lot of reading on this subject. There were several terms and names of which I had never heard. Voted interesting.

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      Grant 2 years ago

      So much for tolerance and understanding, nope... Jesus said not to listen so... case closed huh? Somewhere there's a guy in Iraq who thinks Christianity is evil. Who gets to decide what's what?... Try to learn about something with an open mind before condemning it.

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      James A Watkins 2 years ago from Chicago

      I appreciate your point of view Grant. However, if the Christian Faith is right all the others are wrong. There is no middle ground. If Jesus is 'the Way and the Truth and the Life' so that 'No one comes to the Father (GOD) except through me' all other religions are not only false but they are evil, spawned by the Devil himself to deceive people into going down the Path to Perdition. If Jesus was a liar, then the Christian Faith is null and void. as far as that guy in Iraq, no honest man ever found fault with Jesus or with His Program. Thank you for your comments.

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      Grant 2 years ago

      I don't agree, even IF Christianity is 100% correct (And I mean if) that does not directly imply that all other religions are Satanic, mankind has always been curious about the unknown, trying to make sense of where we came from, look at things like Egyptian and Greek mythology, this is man's attempt at explaining life on Earth and the universe. Over centuries religion has been translated, re-written, and edited to the point that so much has been lost and misunderstood. We're taught that in the beginning there was Adam and Eve, but this is a rebooted version of your faith. In the original context, there already were humans on Earth before Adam, he was just made in God's image, also the first woman was Lilith who Adam did not like because she did not want to serve him, so God killed her and created the more submissive Eve. Also it states in Genesis that there were "Giants" on Earth before man, so why do we hardly ever heard of that? I mean no offence by this, I'm just saying that it's wrong for the church to brainwash people with a revised version of the truth which works better for their system. Wouldn't you rather know what has been covered up?

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      TSAD 2 years ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

      Grant, I'd suggest you consult with some legitimate experts on the Bible instead of using your own interpretations without the advantage of counsel and study guides because your ideas of what is in the Bible are from la la land my friend at best or suggested by Satan himself at worst.

      James, terrific overview of "new age"! For any of the Bible to be true the 5 basic tenants of the Bible have to be 100% true (and not subject to any different interpretation). But if any one of the new age beliefs are true then according to them all religions, except Christianity can be true. What does that tell you? It tells you that Satan is the father of all religions save Christianity.

      Besides any of that, Christianity is the only "religion" that makes sense, is logical, historically correct and has multiple eyewitness accounts of the creator of the universe. People like Grant, if they were serious would search the facts, ask his questions of Christian apologists and draw his conclusions from the truth instead of forming his opinion and then looking for things that support it, and that is what he does as I have known many like him...the are called charlatans.

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      James A Watkins 2 years ago from Chicago

      tsadjatko--- Thank you ever much for your wise words of wisdom. You clearly have the spirit of discernment able to separate truth from falsehood. Great commentary and I surely appreciate it.

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      Grant 2 years ago

      Just because you don't want to admit the truth about your religion, that does not make me a charlatan. I know it's not easy to hear these kind of things, I was pretty disappointed to hear that Satana Claus doesn't really deliver gifts, so I understand why you're playing shoot the messenger here. All I have stated here is that the sugar-coated version of Christianity you hear about in the church is not accurate because it contradicts itself. There is a part of the old testament where God commands that people kill everyone who does not submit to his will, this is the same God that Moses worshipped, Yahweh, also known as Jehovah. He has killed countless human beings as part of his grand plan, but we're so supposed to believe that he loves us? What have I said so far that is wrong? Lilith was the original daughter of God, but he destroyed her because she did not want to serve Adam. The bible was written during a time of male dominance, and this is evident in the way it is written, God is a man, why would the creator of all that is be male? Seriously, you guys can bash new age spirituality all you want, but don't expect me to bow to your murderous God.

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      Hxprof 2 years ago from Clearwater, Florida

      Grant, I don't know who is expecting you to "bow to" our "murderous God"; you're free to do what you wish in regards to the Gospel. What I know, both through scripture and experientially, is that God does love me (us). God loves me enough to show me the truth about myself, about what's really in my heart, so I can be cleansed by Christ's sacrifice for me.

      But to your point, God did tell the Jews to put all Canaanites to the sword when they conquered the land God gave them. Why? Why did God have so many of those He created put to death? The answer is in scripture, but the short story is that all those He had killed He knew would never repent...they'd never allow God to free them from their sins so they could live with Him for eternity.

      Everything we see God doing in scripture dovetails with God's perfect nature. If I insist, however, on looking at God as I look at mortals I completely miss God. All-knowing, all-powerful, all present. God knows each of us before we're created, and subsequently knows what decisions we'll make....and what decisions we won't make. He sees our lives before we're formed in the womb, knowing that some of those He's creating will choose evil over the wonder of knowing Him; still, God creates all of us and allows us the choices He already knows we'll make. He also holds us accountable for those choices.

      What James has written here is grounded in scripture. Grant, you don't believe that scripture-the Bible-is the inerrant word of God. That being so, it's unlikely you'll agree with most of what James has written here. It's that simple.

      If you're not on Hubpages I encourage you to join and to write a piece specifically to stand in contrast to James' piece. I'll read it if you do.

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      TSAD 2 years ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

      hxprof, "Lilith was the original daughter of God, but he destroyed her because she did not want to serve Adam" Anyone who puts their "faith" in the Lilith myth instead of the Bible which has proven to be more historically and archaeologically accurate than any other ancient book. It has been subjected to the minutest scientific textual analysis possible to humanity and has been proven to be authentic in every way, has serious cognitive problems. Don't encourage him. You can find plenty of this sort of lunacy on hubpages already. It's like giving a loaded gun to a child.

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      James A Watkins 2 years ago from Chicago

      Great comments all. Grant-- Lilith is a fairy tale. God is not a man. God ordered the Canaanites killed because they were evil satan-worshipers standing in defiance against Him. Nazis were killed because they were evil. Serial killers are put to death because they are evil. You are starting off at the wrong place to truly understand the cosmos you are in. You want to stand above God and look down at Him and judge Him. (All the while probably standing for non-judgmentalism.) To understand God and the Bible you must start by placing yourself UNDER Him and It, seeking understanding and wisdom--not searching for excuses not to believe.

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      Grant 2 years ago

      I may not have all the details right but essentially that is what happened, and it's easy for you to decide which is truth and which is a fairytale but that sounds more like denial to me. You realize that the part about Lillith was removed from the old testament right? Seriously, I mean no disrespect but you guys only seem to acknowledge the sugar coated version of your religion, you have no idea how much has been removed and re-written by the powers in charge. Even many of the things still left in the bible are pretty bad, God commands his followers to kill everyone who does not worship him and who disobey his commands. Do you people go around killing everyone who works on the Sabbath? If not, you aren't following your God's wishes, because that is in there, look it up.

      Here's something you guys might be interested in:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92mKsjp_GdM

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      Grant 2 years ago

      Sorry but I just want to clarify something: I actually do believe in God, I believe that the universe is a being that has given us the gift of self awareness and emotion, I believe in the spirit and that when we die it is not truly our demise. I just don't believe that what the bibles say about God is true, God is not a male for starters, and he does not want people to be killed in his name, nor does he give a damn whether we're straight or gay. God is the source of all life and wants us only to find peace and help each others, that's it! All this witch-hunting propaganda is just redundant.

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      James A Watkins 2 years ago from Chicago

      NO GRANT---Lilith was not 'removed from the Old Testament.' That is what is known as horse shit. Where is your proof for this insane assertion? There is none because is is not true and not thought to be true by any serious person.

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      James A Watkins 2 years ago from Chicago

      Grant---And allow me to clarify some things as well. You apparently do not believe in God. Because God is NOT 'the universe.' ROFLMAO. God MADE the Universe but it is not HIM. HE would exist without a Universe. The Universe would not exist without Him. You are quoting Pantheism which is warmed over Satanism. 'Gay or straight?' Yes, you are right that God would not recognize these categories of human beings. There are no such real people. Homosexual is not what people are. It is what some people DO. There are people who COMMIT homosexual actions and God does care about those behaviors---He condemns them and abhors them. HE designed human sexuality with male and female organs that just happen to fit together and perpetuate the entire human race. Any deviant use of those organs makes God sick because they represent a rejection of HIM and a rebellion against HIM and the way HE designed nature. God not only wants 'people to help each other.' HE wants people to make an effort to be HOLY. Look that word up. You are in denial probably because you want your favorite sins to be approved of---just because they are your favorites.

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      Grant 2 years ago

      The proof is there, you just choose not to accept it, I showed you a link to back up what I'm saying, and all you have to do is google this to see that Adam was in fact a misogynist who wanted his wife to submit to him. Where is your proof that Adam & Eve were the first humans? I also seem to be hitting a nerve, I can tell by your tone that this angers you, because it's something you don't want to hear, who's really in denial? The God of the old testament is a bloodthirsty tyrant, are you going to tell me that there is nothing in there about killing those who do not obey his rules? If you really want to follow "God's word" to the letter, go out and kill everyone who works on the Sabbath, or who do not believe in God, but have fun in prison, since morals and ethics of modern day civilized society are not compatible with this ancient scripture. The bible also speaks about slavery as though it's not such a big deal, guess why? Because back when it was written slavery was legal. The bible doesn't mention Dinosaurs, why? Because they hadn't been discovered yet. See a pattern here? You think it's ridiculous for God to be the universe, well how the hell can God exist BEFORE the universe? What made God? The truth (As I see it, which you will condemn me for) is that with the big bang the universe was created and so was what you call God, IT is an energy being that is constantly learning and evolving, and each one of us is a manifestation of that energy source, we don't owe anything to this creature because it IS us.

      All that you see around you is energy, it's only programmed to appear this way through the brain. This is scientific fact, not a myth or a theory, a fuckin FACT!, but it contradicts the bible so let's just deny that, eh? Look, I'm not trying to antagonize you or anyone, but seriously, wake up and get with the times. You're pushing a religion that was written back when women were considered property and men were dominant, this is evident by the writings in both your religion and that of Judaism, Islam and whatever religion that refers to God as "Him". Put aside your faith for a moment, use logic... why would God be male? For what purpose? To believe this you are essentially believing that men are superior, and they wonder where misogyny comes from...

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      Grant 2 years ago

      Here's the link again, just in case you actually want to face the facts for a change: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92mKsjp_GdM

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      Hxprof 2 years ago from Clearwater, Florida

      Grant, you seem passionate about this. Why don't you take the time to say your piece in an article?? People on Hubpages write about all sorts of things - you'd be in good company.

      You've rejected scripture as the Word of God, but you may as well accept that others DO believe the scriptures are the Word of God....that being the case, your posting the kind of nonsense you've posted here is a waste of your time. Write your article Grant.

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      TSAD 2 years ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

      When will people learn that a you tube video production is not proof of anything.

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      James A Watkins 2 years ago from Chicago

      Grant---Lilith was NEVER in the Hebrew Scriptures. That's the bottom line. Lilith is a medieval legend derived from old myths about a female DEMON. Lilith is common today in horror and fantasy literature as well as in Occult (Satan-worship) practices. They may even actually be a demon named Lilith but such a thing was never in the Bible and she was not around when Adam was created by God. It is simply nonsense dreamed up by evil spirits and perpetuated by evil people. You calla YouTube video 'proof?' That's a joke. Why don't you ask Jewish Torah Scholars instead of some kook. Yes, God existed before the universe. He has always existed. What you are saying IS NOT 'scientific fact.' Even hard core atheist do not make such ridiculous claims. You think science has proven who God is? You are a nut. Jesus said we should address God as "Our Father." Who in the hell are you to claim Jesus is a liar or that you know better? That in no way means human men are better than women, as femi-Nazis stupidly claim. The Bible clearly says men and women are equal in the eyes of God and equally bound to God's moral law. I am not angry in the least. But your arguments are kindergarten stuff. You are believing in demonic doctrines because you are in rebellion against your Creator. The stuff your propose is nothing but claptrap. Scientific indeed. Good grief. Grow up!

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      Grant 2 years ago

      You misunderstood my comment, I didn't mean that the whole thing about a sentient self aware universe is scientific fact, I mean the part about how everything is energy which only exists in the way that we perceive it through the 5 senses in the mind. If you don't want to believe that, well that's your business. I'm getting really tired of you bringing demons into things, even if what you say about Lillith being just a story is true, that does not mean demons were behind it. You go on about how I have no proof, where the heck is your proof that the old testament is true? Just because something is written in ancient scrolls or books does not mean it's true, your faith is no more believable than the ancient myths of Greece, Egypt, etc. I could talk to a Muslim who is just as convinced that his faith is the one true way as you are. So you don't have to believe what I say, but don't talk to me about proof. Look, this debate is getting out of hand, all I'm trying to say is that you should not be so quick to condemn alternative religions as Satanic, even if tomorrow Jesus showed up and proved your religion to be true, that still doesn't imply that other faiths like Buddhism, Judaism, Islam, Taoism, Paganism, and the New Age movement are all fucking invented by Satan! Do you get what I am telling you? You have every right to worship a God who has killed thousands of people, a God who tortured a man just to prove his loyalty, who killed babies to get even with a Pharaoh, who tells his people to kill all those who do not obey his will, and many more horrific things such as that. If that's the kind of God you want to hand your soul to, then great, but do not think you can write all this ignorant slanderous shite on here without receiving backlash. If your God had his way, I'd have been executed for speaking my mind on this, thank God (The real one) that we've evolved past the dark ages.

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      Grant 2 years ago

      Tsadjatko, it is not a "YouTube production" it's a legitimate documentary that happens to have been uploaded there, there are all kind of sources you can find about this story, and even if the story of Lillith is not part of the original text, the things you can actually find in there still portray God as a mass-murderer, are you denying that?

      Hxprof, Perhaps I will do what you suggested.

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      James A Watkins 2 years ago from Chicago

      You think everything in the universe can be perceived by your five senses? Nonsense. Science cannot explain everything nor does it claim to be able to or to ever be able to. Science cannot even explain consciousness though you and I know it is real. And recent studies show that man has not 'evolved' since the 'Dark Ages' but instead has 'devolved'---getting dumber not smarter as evolution would predict (if it was true which it is not). You are standing above God and judging Him. What utter arrogance you display! Everybody dies and evil satan-worshipers deserve to die sooner rather than later before they lead others to eternal damnation. God doesn't have to conform to your opinions or expectations. Your problem seems to be with Judaism. Take it up with some Jews why don't you. Or do you hate Jesus too? You wrote, "even if tomorrow Jesus showed up and proved your religion to be true, that still doesn't imply that other faiths like Buddhism, Judaism, Islam, Taoism, Paganism, and the New Age movement are all fucking invented by Satan." SURE IT DOES! Jesus said, "I am the Way and the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the father except through me." That is either right or wrong---there is no middle. If it is wrong then your other religions might be right. But if it is right then your other religions are wrong and if they are wrong they are false and if they are false they are set up to deceive people and are against God and if they are set up to deceive they come from Satan--absolutely. Those other religions do not even present the same universe or the same reality. No one else is competing for Jesus' crown---Muslims do not think Mohammed was God, Jews do not think Moses was God, Buddhists do not think Buddha was God. Buddhists do not even believe in God at all and Hindus believe in a million of them. All of these world views cannot be true at the same time. Jesus either is who He said He is or He was a liar or a lunatic. Furthermore, the Lilith story is tied to demons---not by me but by everybody familiar with her myth. Lilith means 'night monster' for a reason. In the Talmud--in the first mention of her in history--she is described as a demon. In the Dead Sea Scrolls she is a demon. In the Dark Age Jewish mysticism she is a demon. Naturally, this makes her an object or worship to Occultists or at least one to be admired.

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      SirDent 2 years ago

      What a great article! of course, you know I love to read your writings. it amazes me sometimes what people will say and do to keep from seeing the truth. A few thoughts came to mind as I read this.

      Many like Buddha and his writings. They love that they have no one to be responsible to, just they have to be enlightened. What happens after enlightenment? They come back as someone else, a christ spirit? Of course these thoughts might be off base a little.

      Hindus believe in reincarnation. You musty be born over and over again until you learned your lesson. What happens after you learn the lesson? Do you disappear forever?

      New age started after the fall of man, just before the first murder to be exact. Cain tried to get in touch with God in his own way instead of the way God intended. We know the story.

      Finally, the Bible is believed only by those who believe in Christ Jesus. Some say there is no way of telling if it is true or not while others say it cannot be true. Yet, they will believe anyone else no matter how absurd it is simply because they have no one to be accountable to except themselves. The simple belief of New Age is if it feels good, do it no matter the consequence.

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      Grant 2 years ago

      James, I have to admit that my previous comment did not properly explain what I was trying to say and I agree that there are more than 5 senses, I am just used to discussing this sort of thing with sceptical Atheists, so I try to avoid mentioning anything to do with a 6th sense.

      I also don't think science can explain EVERYTHING but I don't think it should be ignored and swept under the rug, which is what the Roman Catholic church have been doing for a long, long time. I think the mistake I often make is putting all religion in the same basket, because Catholicism is really were the problems lie, Christianity may not be something I subscribe my beliefs to, but I do like the philosophies of forgiveness and all that. I think you have the wrong idea about the point I'm trying to make, I am saying that even if Christ is the only way (This is an IF mind you) there is no evidence that it is Satan who is responsible for those other spiritual beliefs, that quote still doesn't confirm your claims.

      Did it ever occur to you that human beings came up with those beliefs? Seriously, why do people like you have to keep playing this game of Pin The Blame On Satan? I'm not even saying that Satan is a good guy, I'm just stating that there is absolutely 0% proof that Satan is involved with New Age religion, since there is no proof at all that he even exists. I am sorry if what I say offends you, but I find it offensive that you go and label Oprah "Satan's mistress" just because she is part of the New Age movement. I see where you are coming from, but I think you are just going the wrong way about it.

      What if Satan becomes more powerful by the amount of people who believe in him? For thousands of years people have been going on about the devil and what has it actually accomplished? I think it's just time for a new approach, if you really want to turn people away from these "demonic" cults, I can assure you this is just not the way.

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      Grant 2 years ago

      SirDent, No offence but you are way off. "If it feels good do it" That is not what New Agers believe, I don't know where you're getting that idea. It is just a form of spirituality that revolves more about energy rather than prayer, I know that contrasts with what you're all about, you have every right to dislike it, but this idea that it's demonic is nothing but a theory. In Buddhism, when you have learned all there is to learn, you ascend to a higher realm of existence, you don't just cease to exist, and maybe they do ove not having to answer to someone, but can you blame them? I mean who does like that idea? The only reason you think there's something wrong with it is because you've been raised to believe that you will be punished for NOT answering to God. Fear is the driving force behind all this, those idiots from the Westboro Baptist church who go around protesting at soldier's funerals, they do this because they're brainwashed to believe that they will go to hell for NOT doing that crap.

      Do you see why myself, and so many others, are genuinely worried about the grip that religion has on the world? If the only reason someone tries to be good is because they are afraid of hell, then that person is just trash. All the people out there who actually do good in the world, not because a book told them to, but because they genuinely care about others, they are the ones who deserve to go to heaven, not someone who's just trying to save his own ass.

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      Grant 2 years ago

      Sorry there were a few errors there, I hope that made sense.

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      James A Watkins 2 years ago from Chicago

      Thank you SirDent for your outstanding comments. I agree with you.

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      James A Watkins 2 years ago from Chicago

      Grant~ It is a satanic myth that Christianity, or even the Catholic Church, ignores science. The Scientific Revolution was sprung entirely by Christian men. Christians love science---science in its proper sense being repeatable observations and experiments. What they do not appreciate is Scientism--which is not science but, to quote one scholar, "the wrong-headed belief that modern science supplies the only reliable method of knowledge about the world, and its corollary that scientists should be the ones to dictate public policy and even our moral and religious beliefs simply because of their scientific expertise."

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      James A Watkins 2 years ago from Chicago

      In regard to Satan and demons, everyone who believes in the New Testament must believe in them because they are mentioned in 100 places as the enemies of God, working non-stop against Christ, against His Church, against Christians. The Bible clearly teaches that any person, government, judge, court, newspaper, school, or other form of communication that works to thwart the Kingdom of God is from Satan.

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      James A Watkins 2 years ago from Chicago

      Confucius was not bringing a message from heaven to earth but trying to organize China. While he addressed morals and manners he was not a religious teacher. The Hindu tradition is that all the gods and men are only the dreams of Brahma; and will cease to exist the moment Brahma wakes up. Gautama, the great Lord Buddha, was among the greatest intellectuals in human history. He was noble, sincere, and magnificent among men. He was reared in pomp and luxury but deliberately lived life as a beggar. Buddha was a philosopher who founded a school of philosophy.

      Whereas in the West we see the universe, life, and human beings as having a beginning and progressing to an end; in the East the view is of an endless cosmic wheel. And the chief idea is to get off.

      From the concept of this wheel of life, the Hindu constructed an ever-expanding, extraordinarily extravagant mythology. A great deal of it is idolatry—the local and literal worship of idols—that was not true of the original Brahmins. Hinduism sees a spiritual superiority behind social superiority in contrast to the Christian Faith in which kings and paupers will stand equal before God. All Hindus are not brothers and sisters as are all Christians. Along with this concept of the cosmic wheel of destiny in Hinduism comes belief in reincarnation.

      The Buddha proposed a metaphysical or psychological discipline by which to eliminate desire, which he saw as the cause of all sorrow. But with this came the idea that reality is not real. A Buddhist could exist—as far as he could be said to exist—in an ecstasy of indifference. It is as if the Lord of Compassion pities people for being alive. One thing is for certain: this has never borne any resemblance to a Church.

      The mind of Asia can be represented by a 0—the great Asiatic symbol of a serpent with its tail in its mouth. Everything is a dream and a delusion. The problem with creation is differentiation and individual personalities. All will be well once we disappear into nothingness.

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      James A Watkins 2 years ago from Chicago

      There is a huge gulf between these world views and the Christian Faith, namely that other religions are about the teachings of a man whereas the Christian Faith is far more about the WHO Jesus is than what He taught. None of the great Christian Creeds even mention Jesus' teachings. It is about WHO HE IS.

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      Hxprof 2 years ago from Clearwater, Florida

      Grant: What scripture calls "the doctrines of demons" are things that depart from the truth. While it is man who gives expression to these "doctrines", the doctrines are demonically inspired. Thus Hinduism, Islam and etc. are all inspired by demons, but given an outlet through men. God works through His people (it's in scripture). Satan works also through men, using his people (again in scripture). Everything we see on the physical plane of existence has behind it a spiritual component. Note that when Christ returns the sky is "rolled up like a scroll", revealing the reality behind our physical world.

      This world is temporary. What lasts forever is God and those who live with Him.

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      Grant 2 years ago

      Please forgive my tone in earlier messages, I was just speaking out of anger because I don't like the way that Satan is used to scare people away from alternative faiths, but I didn't mean anything personal by it. In all honesty, I don't even consider myself New Age, or strictly follow any one faith, but I do believe in the concept of the afterlife and God, I just have more of a scientific perspective on these concepts.

      You seem to know a lot about other religions, James, you seem like an intelligent person, so I don't understand why you're describing Oprah as "Satan's mistress" because that just really hurts the credibility of your article. I think she has a right to believe what she wants, and I understand that someone with such a large following like her will turn many away from Christ, I get why you're angry about that, but she does not have any associating with Satan, so why resort to that kind of nonsense?

      I actually do believe that reality is the dream of a higher being, but I think that we are that entity, so if it were to wake up, we would wake up. I think that our own dreams are our personal world that we create which only we inhabit, but this reality is a dream stabilized by what you call God. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but I do not share your black or white view on spirituality, I don't believe that absence of Christ equates to demons and hell, I guess we'll have to just agree to disagree on this.

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      Grant 2 years ago

      Hxprof: I get what you're saying, and I believe it is possible that the world is full of demons just like Jesus spoke about, but even so, there are 2 sides to a story, and I believe there is a lot we aren't being told. How did those demons come to exist in the first place? What if from their perspective humans are evil? I don't like this naive perception of humans being more important than all other life-forms, we are no more valuable than a bird or spider, just because we are so intelligent by comparison does not make us a special-species. Look at all the animal cruelty in the world, from their perspective human beings must seem just as evil as any demon. I could go on about this stuff but I think you guys get the idea, so thanks for your time anyway.

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      bradmasterOCcal 2 years ago from Orange County California

      Isn't seven billion people that can't agree on much enough,

      Check please

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      Grant 2 years ago

      I'm not clear on what that meant, Brad. Please elaborate if you're reading this. Thanks!

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      bradmasterOCcal 2 years ago from Orange County California

      Grant

      There are currently seven billion people that are alive today, and tens of billions that have died.

      This should be more than enough of a sample to show that human nature prevails over the concept of a deity controlled or created lifeform.

      People are as evil as they have been since recorded history. There has been no positive change before AD or after it.

      No one has to be taught to be evil, it is a basic part of our human nature. People have to be taught to be good, and reminded over and over with laws, punishments, and other methods.

      Thanks for asking.

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      Grant 2 years ago

      I see what you mean, and this backs up the point I was trying to make earlier, so I'm glad someone else sees through the manipulation in our society.

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      Mark G Weller 2 years ago from Lake Charles, LA.

      As usual, this is very clearly stated and explained. Well done James.

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      Artin2010 2 years ago from Northwestern Florida, Gulfcoast

      Thank you James for sharing this timeless work of hub. Enjoy reading comments also. I vote up! It surely is about WHO HE IS!

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      Jay C OBrien 2 years ago from Houston, TX USA

      Let us look at the foundation of the Christian faith, The Bible. It is a collection of books written by many authors over centuries. The Roman Catholic Bible has 73 books and was bound together in the Fifth century. About 1,000 years later the Protestants removed books from the RC Bible to reduce it to 66 Books.

      Which Bible do you follow (RC or Protestant)?

      Did Joshua have a covenant or divine directive to enter the land of Canaan and kill women and children?

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      Robert E Smith 23 months ago from Rochester, New York

      Hi Jim. I really enjoyed this rundown of so many popular views of rejecting Jesus. I always learn so much in these articles. I don't really retain as much as I would hope. But not retaining keeps this information fresh to my eyes and a good refresher for me. I couldn't help but chuckle a bit at the Oprah caption. I voted up, interesting and useful and I pinned it on my Pinterest board about false religion. That's where I stash all of the photos of idols and gods as well. Thank you, Bob.

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      Alexander Silvius 22 months ago from beautiful, rainy, green Portland, Oregon

      Insightful. One thing I have noticed over the years, and the reason I don't presently go to church is the infusion of modern new age beliefs into church philosophies. You can hear it in modern Christian music which is repetitive, repeating the same things over and over such as "burn me with your consuming fire". They think they are referring to the purifying process, the refining to become pure gold, but the way it is presented in modern Christian music, all you can really hear is the desire to be burned, which is saved for those who do not turn to God!

      The reason I don't go to church is because they advocate the emptying of yourself, clearing your mind and destroying your sense of self for emptiness and then the supposedly the Holy Spirit can replace your individuality. But this is so far from the truth. When you look at the entire Bible, God does want us to follow him, but he also elevates individualism, and being his creation, of course we should be distinct and different personalities!

      It's a fine line because as you stated, new age religion exalts the self, but it raises us up not even above God, but it attempts to completely eliminate the concept of God as we know it. Like the devil in the garden, he mixes a bit of truth with lies to simply get us away from God. The devil doesn't even care if we follow him or not, he simply wants to take away from God so he can justify his own position that he thinks he is higher than God.

      And that is the point, the spreading of confusion to take away God's glory, to destroy what God has built: especially us. How wonderful we are that God specially made us and how unique we each are, but how can we be unique and glorified if we deny that very thing that made us so?

      I do wonder about things like Yoga, when practiced merely as an exercise, is it evil? No doubt it comes from a form of paganism, most likely knowledge given to us by demons, and its allure is the acceptance of it by society at large, and the wonderful benefits people talk about who practice this art. I once walked into an apartment of a friend who had arranged everything according to Feng Shui, and it was very comforting. Do we need to reject everything that has its source in demonism or can we pick out what is good if we completely eliminate the evils it came with? I don't even care to get involved with those things because I have learned over the past several years that when we play with these things, we become affected by dark spiritual forces. I used to have premonitions and still do from time to time, but I have learned to pray against those attacks. I used to think they had some use, like astral projection. I used to leave my body when I was younger, and tried it several times again over the years, but the result ALWAYS was I would fall under spiritual attack. I have completely rejected these practices now and more and more I have that peace that passes all understanding.

      Living in liberal Portland Oregon is fantastic, and I have met more genuine liberals who are truly open minded. Sadly, they do some things that mainstream Christians refuse to do, like taking care of the environment. God said we are to have dominion over all the earth and the animals. Modern progressives are doing the right thing for the wrong reasons, they worship the earth. And here it is again, replacement theology to deny God. It seems like Christians are rejecting Godly practices while at the same time including pagan practices like emptying the mind and the destruction of self in a misguided effort to make God first in their lives. The problem is that Christians don't think anymore, they don't study the Bible. This is of course because of new age teachings, the elevation of self over God while being absorbed into the collective society of Oneness. We need to elevate God so we can be the individuals he meant for us to be.

      I cannot get out of my head a statement made by Obi Wan in Star Wars 3, "only the Sith believe in absolutes." What a hypocritical statement! It's Lucas's attempt to infuse humanistic doctrine into society. Since Star Wars is targeted toward children, you can imagine the ramifications, and indeed, these teachings have been around for decades, and that is why we are seeing a selfish society of hateful humanists who proclaim tolerance and love while speaking hate towards Christianity under the umbrella of tolerance. Tolerance is only for those who tolerate everything, and must by its very definition deny those things that oppose complete tolerance. Again, the hypocrisy is very evident in their words and deeds.

      Of course it must be so because in order to believe that humanity is evolving, we must reject that God made laws for us for all of our time on earth from the beginning of history to the end, because God made us in a special way and he knows we cannot evolve as humans, we do not change and we remain just as human as the day he made us. Naturally, new age philosophy must oppose Christianity because faithful followers of God cannot live under that lie. Humanists see a future devoid of religion because fundamental conservative religions cannot coexist with humanism. Sorry for the rant, but I just wanted to support the hub and add my two cents!

      I love how you laid out the feminist agenda, and how new agers are turning common thinking toward intuition rather than logic and reason. I love reading Writer's Digest, but the switching of genders to describe characters and writers and readers drives me nuts. I notice often that article authors will use the male to describe something negative and the female term to describe the actions of a hero. They mistakenly see centuries of oppression of women, but then in turn do the exact same thing to men! it goes to show that we can ultimately identify hypocrisy in every man made religion. I have never seen a picture of Baphomet with breasts but its perfect not because women are evil, but because it elevates the feminist push.

      Thanks for posting this on Facebook brother. As always, educational.

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      Robert E Smith 22 months ago from Rochester, New York

      Wow, you have said so much in your comment, I really don't know where to start. I see that you wish to be totally in God's favor because you seek out all that people have used for evil, and currently is being used by some for evil. Satan always has used subterfuge to infuse his agenda to weaken people that wish to love God more accurately.

      The thing is that Satan has had many many years to infiltrate everywhere and you simply can't reject everything simply because the devil has attempted to influence it. For example one should not give up on the idea of marriage even though Satan has subtly changed it over the years from an idea of a "marriage covenant" to a "marriage contract." Study of Scriptures is plain that marriage is a covenant, so you as a truth-seeker can get married because in your mind and heart you know you are doing what for you is right.

      Remember when some early Christians were having trouble with some buying meat sacrificed to idols. Some were eating and some could not. The concept in Scripture became, if you are convicted in your heart that it is wrong and then eat of that meat, then "for [you] it is sin." The inference is that for others who aren't bothered for whatever reason about the meat being used to say prayers to idols of wood and stone, not living gods, they can eat of it. I think that you have to be careful not to push yourself away from everything that you worry may be tainted and only push yourself away from things you know are evil within the perception in your own heart.

      Simply because some people sing about holy fire which is accurate in the way that they mean (as you stated in your comment) it doesn't mean that some may think of the same things as evil fire. It seems to me that in the desire to become separated from evil you have forsaken what should be blessings in your life, like church fellowship and mutual edification. Those traps that New Agers have put into our culture are only traps if you let them be traps.

      I think also that the reason most Christians are wary around ecological endeavors is because lots of the money donated to such causes goes to scientists who have a world view that does not coincide with the Scripture but more with a world view of evolutionists and the billions of years of evolution paradigm. We know that Jesus is coming and we know that there is no way that we will blow up the whole earth and still have the events that evolutionary scientists say will happen. But we also know we are to care for the land so it is up to you to decide and be convicted of what is right. I thank you for commenting and if you desire more dialogue I will love to hear your further comments. Bob.

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      Jay C OBrien 21 months ago from Houston, TX USA

      James, would you care to comment on the number of books in the Bible; Protestant vs. Catholic?

      Did God/Jesus actually come to earth and assign land to the Hebrews? Did God/Jesus authorize killing for that land? See the Book of Joshua.

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      PomeliaikoMikhail 11 months ago

      Nice hub. Some new age ideas are interesting, useful & awesome to implement.

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      Jay C OBrien 11 months ago from Houston, TX USA

      In my view the New Age movement is about recognition of the same principals in all religions. The Golden Rule appears in all major religions, but said a little differently. All major religions believe in One God, a Personal God, a Transcendent God, a Forgiving God.

      All have similar statements such as:

      Repel the evil deed with one which is better, then lo, he between whom and you there was enmity shall become as though he were a bosom friend. Islam

      Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. Christian.

      God said, "Resemble Me; just as I repay good for evil so do you also repay good for evil." Judaism

      A superior being does not render evil for evil; this is a maxim one should observe. Hindu.

      But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.... Christian.

      Hatreds never cease through hatred in this world; through love alone they cease. Buddhism.

      The essence of all the Prophets is One and the same.

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      James A Watkins 11 months ago from Chicago

      Hxprof~ Your comments are so extraordinary they bear repeating for those who missed them: "What scripture calls "the doctrines of demons" are things that depart from the truth. While it is man who gives expression to these "doctrines", the doctrines are demonically inspired. Thus Hinduism, Islam and etc. are all inspired by demons, but given an outlet through men. God works through His people (it's in scripture). Satan works also through men, using his people (again in scripture). Everything we see on the physical plane of existence has behind it a spiritual component." AMEN

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      James A Watkins 11 months ago from Chicago

      Grant~ Thank you for your conciliatory tone. You say you "don't understand why you're describing Oprah as "Satan's mistress" because that just really hurts the credibility of your article." She is an apostate from the One True Faith and through her influence Satan has led millions of American women astray, down the Path to Perdition. I totally agree that "she has a right to believe what she wants." And I am not "angry" about her beliefs. It is not 'nonsense' that New Age Religion is demonic. It is true.

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      James A Watkins 11 months ago from Chicago

      Grant~ You seem like a very nice fellow. But you went off the rails with this comment: "I don't like this naive perception of humans being more important than all other life-forms, we are no more valuable than a bird or spider." That is a demonic worldview and completely against the Truth revealed to us in the Holy Bible.

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      James A Watkins 11 months ago from Chicago

      bradmasterOCcal~ Yes, it is true that we are a fallen race and all of us are tainted by Sin in our human nature. I never said we are 'controlled' by God. He gave us Free Will. That should be obvious. And it is truly false that the Power of Christ has caused no improvement in the world. Billions of individual stories say otherwise, not to mention Christendom itself (Western Civilization).

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      James A Watkins 11 months ago from Chicago

      Curiad~ Thank you! Thank you very much for your kind compliments.

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      James A Watkins 11 months ago from Chicago

      Artin2010~ You are most welcome. Thank you for the 'voted up' and your gracious words. God Bless You Brother.

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      TSAD 11 months ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

      Jay, I have to disagree with the statements you have made. The New Age movement is NOT about recognition of the same principals in all religions. It is about total rejection of the one true God who gave his only son as a ransom for the punishment due our sins. It totally rejects that there is only one path to God, that being through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ who is THE ONLY way to the father.

      All major religions DO NOT "believe in One God, a Personal God, a Transcendent God, a Forgiving God."

      Where on earth do you get that idea?..I'll tell you where, from New Age because it is what they want you to believe, Their blatant lie.

      The "god" or (gods) of all major religions that do not believe in the one true triune God of the Bible, the God of the trinity, his son Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit are not the same god.

      In truth, all "religions" are man made creations of Satan, from the pit of hell designed to lead you away from the truth, Jesus Christ. True Christianity is not a religion,

      https://philippians1v21.wordpress.com/why-believe-...

      and New Age is just another evil concoction, a ruse of satan, schemed up by those who in their hearts have rejected God.

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      James A Watkins 11 months ago from Chicago

      Jay C OBrien~ The Bible is a collection of 66 books written by forty men over a time span of 1,500 years. The writers wrote what they were told to write by the Creator of all things. Therefore, the whole Bible is really one book by one Author—God Himself. The Bible is both fully human and fully divine, as is Jesus.

      The first 39 books—the Old Testament—were originally published in Hebrew and written over a period of one thousand years, 1400-400 BC. The last 27 books were written in Greek and comprise the New Testament, all penned in AD 45-90, with eight contributors. Moses is the chief writer of the Old Testament; Paul of the New Testament. God chose to communicate with man in those particular languages at those particular times—Hebrew and Greek.

      In the Bible, we meet God. Without a doubt, He is presented to us as a living Person, who speaks and acts. He also despises people that worship men or demons dressed up as phony gods. God has always been. There has never been a time when He was not. He lives outside of time, which was created for us. God is transcendent. That means He is beyond and above all He has made, which is everything except Himself. God is independent of this universe, but all of it is dependent upon Him. We should worship Him, for He is worthy of our adoration.

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      James A Watkins 11 months ago from Chicago

      no body! You are quite welcome, Bob. It is always a distinct pleasure to hear from you. I very much appreciate your note that you, "voted up, interesting and useful and pinned it on my Pinterest board about false religion." God Bless You!

      James

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      James A Watkins 11 months ago from Chicago

      Alexander Mark~ You are most welcome, brother. Thank you for your extraordinary commentary. You are spot on about "the infusion of modern new age beliefs into church philosophies." And you are truly right that "Like the devil in the garden, he mixes a bit of truth with lies to simply get us away from God." I love your insights here as well: "these teachings have been around for decades, and that is why we are seeing a selfish society of hateful humanists who proclaim tolerance and love while speaking hate towards Christianity under the umbrella of tolerance." AMEN

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      James A Watkins 11 months ago from Chicago

      no body~ Bob, your response to Alexander Mark is awesome. Thank you so much. I could not agree more with all you said. You truly have the spirit of discernment.

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      James A Watkins 11 months ago from Chicago

      Jay C Obrien ~ Did God order the extermination of a tribe of Satan worshipers? Yes he did.

      If you want to understand why the books in the Bible are the books in the Bible, I wrote another short Hub about that: https://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/New-Testa...

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      James A Watkins 11 months ago from Chicago

      PomeliaikoMikhail ~ Thank you very much for taking the time to read my article.

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      James A Watkins 11 months ago from Chicago

      Jay C OBrien~ You must not have read my article. New Age Religion rejects a personal God; the same personal God at the heart of the Holy Bible. The Bible also forbids one of the most common elements in New Age “spirituality”: paranormal entities that can be reached by “mediums” and through “channeling.” Another of the key ideas of New Age Religion is that there is no real difference between the Creator and His creatures. Man, nature, spirit, matter—all are the same thing. Here we see the Pantheism that pervades all New Age thought and practice. That is decidedly against the teachings of the Bible.

      In order to deprecate the Christian Faith—the ultimate purpose of the New Age Movement—it must be preached that Jesus of Nazareth was not the Christ, but simply one among many Christs among historical personages, such as Buddha, for one example, through whom wisdom has been revealed.

      New Agers specifically deny the anthropological vision of the Bible, in which human beings are at the center of the world and considered to be qualitatively superior to other natural forms of life. New Age Religionists tell us that there is no such thing as Sin—in particular no Sexual Sin. This is powerfully attractive to those who wish to justify their sexual immorality.

      It must never be forgotten that many of the movements which have fed the New Age are explicitly anti-Christian. Their stance towards Christianity is not neutral, but neutralizing: despite what is often said about openness to all religious standpoints, traditional Christianity is not sincerely regarded as an acceptable alternative.

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      James A Watkins 11 months ago from Chicago

      tsadjatko ~ Thank you so much for your remarkable remarks. I agree with you 100% that "The New Age movement is NOT about recognition of the same principals in all religions. It is about total rejection of the one true God who gave his only son as a ransom for the punishment due our sins. It totally rejects that there is only one path to God, that being through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ who is THE ONLY way to the father." AMEN! God Bless You.

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      Jay C OBrien 11 months ago from Houston, TX USA

      "Jay C OBrien~ The Bible is a collection of 66 books written by forty men over a time span of 1,500 years. The writers wrote what they were told to write by the Creator of all things."

      Q1 How do you know the Creator told them what to write?

      "Jay C Obrien ~ Did God order the extermination of a tribe of Satan worshipers? Yes he did."

      Q2 Does God command one person to kill another?

      Q3 Is killing in the name of God Religious Terrorism?

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      TSAD 11 months ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

      Jay, Why are you ignoring the truth we just shared with you about New Age and asking these particular questions? None of this has anything to do with New Age.

      Is it because you really want to know the answers or because you think they can't be answered? If the latter I'd suggest you study the Bible because these and all your questions can be answered by the actual and inspired words of the Lord himself, by people who have spent their lives dedicated to study of the Word of God and truth.

      Try Googling your questions and seek hits from accredited Bible or apologetic sites. These questions are easily answered and explained from a Biblical perspective, you need to research before asking them, it takes little effort. Isaiah 55:8 "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the LORD.

      James, I wish there were more people like you here who aren't afraid tell it like it is! You are blessed.

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      Jay C OBrien 11 months ago from Houston, TX USA

      They are simple enough questions.

      I want to know what You say, not someone else.

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      Hxprof 11 months ago from Clearwater, Florida

      Well Jay, I'll chip in with what I say.

      Q1: Faith.

      Q2: Scripture gives us examples of cases in which God did just that.

      Q3: In such cases as given to us by scripture, no.

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      Jay C OBrien 11 months ago from Houston, TX USA

      Thank you Hxprof for your direct answers. It is much appreciated.

      I suggest we have a religion which teaches that all Humanity is One. (For proof see, "My Telepathic Experiences.")

      We are all part of a great Soul/God.

      Killing is not justified. (Peace Officers may arrest without intent to harm and bring criminals to trial. I am a retired Peace Officer and taught the course.)

      Do to others as if they are a part of you, because they are.

      Condemn not or you will be condemned in the same measure.

      All condemnation is from Man, Not God. (For proof see, "Near Death Experiences and what they mean.")

      Sacrifice does not and has never removed sin.

      Forgiveness removes sin.

      All sin is in the mind first, in the form of negative emotions.

      Forgive to remove the sin in your mind.

      I suggest the above is Scripture, of God.

      Violence voids scripture.

      Thanks for reading.

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      Hxprof 11 months ago from Clearwater, Florida

      Jay- You like New Age thinking regards God - bully for you!

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      Jay C OBrien 11 months ago from Houston, TX USA

      The purpose of religion is to promote love and unity between all people. A religion that promotes conflict is worse than no religion at all.

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      TSAD 11 months ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

      Jay where is it written that is the purpose of religion? There are all kinds of religions most all of which have different purposes than what you stated.

      You also stated "New Age movement is about recognition of the same principals in all religions. The Golden Rule appears in all major religions, but said a little differently. All major religions believe in One God, a Personal God, a Transcendent God, a Forgiving God." All of which are blatantly untrue as I told you but it seems you are so closed minded or brainwashed that you don't even investigate or research anything, if you did you'd find that your statements are the farthest from the truth that they can be. As I pointed out Christianity isn't a religion, there is no religion even like it, but even if you consider it a religion it's purpose is not "to promote love and unity between ALL people" but to reveal God to sinful man and provide him salvation, those who are born again are on their way to love and unity between people who are saved.

      It's obvious if you look at the history of "religion," if it's purpose is "to promote love and unity between ALL people" it has totally failed. If anything religion has divided and is the enemy of "unity between all people" and that includes New Age which is not "new" but a conglomeration of the oldest pagan practices and perversions of modern religions.

      You my friend are so far estranged from reality, the facts and the truth I am afraid you don't have the ability to save yourself from your own indulgence.

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      Wesman Todd Shaw 11 months ago from Kaufman, Texas

      Epic and powerful. But that describes most of your pieces. Your gift of language and ability to relay massive chunks of history in paragraphs is terrific!

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      Jay C OBrien 11 months ago from Houston, TX USA

      Perhaps you misunderstand me. Let me try again. I am not saying religions are identical. All founders/prophets are the same in that they wished to improve humanity. Each teach from their own viewpoint for their culture and times. This may be thought of as an Evolution of Religious Thought.

      For example, in ancient times there was animal and human sacrifice. Today we have evolved our thinking to reject such sacrifices. Jesus said he did not want sacrifice. It is a change of thought over the years.

      New Age stresses the similarities among religions to promote peace. Google the Golden Rule. Wikipedia lists a version from Ancient Egypt to the Near East to China, India, Greece, to Judaism, Christianity and Islam. The similarities exist as stated. All you have to do is look for them.

      The key to New Age thinking is whether you Want to look for similarities. You will find what you seek. If you want to emphasize the differences you may do so. If you want to emphasize the similarities you may do so. Of all the religious books in the world, you Project yourself into them. You will choose what is scripture to you.

      It is self evident that, "The purpose of religion is to promote love and unity between all people. A religion that promotes conflict is worse than no religion at all." Are you opposed to love and unity? Are you in favor of conflict?

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      TSAD 11 months ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

      Sorry buddy, you sound like a moonie, brainwashed to believe lies, everything you have said is a lie. I've shared with you the truth pointing out the lies and you simply ignore the truth and keep repeating the same, meaningless statements, gibberish. The truth is the truth, everyone does not have their own truth and whether or not you know it you can taker this as a wake up call to you from God, if you aren't already too far gone.

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      Jay C OBrien 11 months ago from Houston, TX USA

      Sorry, I do not know what a moonie is.

      What lies?

      Can we agree on the Golden Rule?

      Do you agree the Golden Rule has existed long before Christianity in many religions? (see Wikipedia article).

      Do you agree it is wrong to harm children in the name of religion?

      Do you agree it is wrong to harm animals in the name of religion?

      Now read the Book of Joshua and explain why he harmed children and animals in the name of The Lord.

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      Jay C OBrien 11 months ago from Houston, TX USA

      Perhaps we define New Age differently. You are correct in that some New Age thinking is delusional. I suggest the study of Baha'i as a template for New Age thinking. What do you think of Baha'i?

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      Jay C OBrien~ I know that God Authored the Bible because He says so and I believe Him. There is no real evidence to suggest otherwise. Did God tell the ancient Israelites to wipe out tribes of Satan worshippers? Yes, He did. Was it terrorism? No, it was not.

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      James A Watkins 6 months ago from Chicago

      tsadjatko ~ Thank you so much for your encouraging words and gracious compliments. Make God Bless You and Keep You.

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      James A Watkins 6 months ago from Chicago

      Hxprof~ I surely appreciate your most excellent answers to the questions posed.

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      James A Watkins 6 months ago from Chicago

      Jay C OBrien~ I do appreciate your thoughtful and insightful remarks @ Hxprof.

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      James A Watkins 6 months ago from Chicago

      "The purpose of religion is to promote love and unity between all people," says Jay C OBrien. Where do you get that notion? The purpose of the Holy Bible is to teach us who we are and why we are here; where we came from and where we are going. As well as what God expects of us. In the end, it is a proposition that some will accept and others will reject by their own Free Will. There should be Unity among Believers, yes - but not unity with those who reject God.

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      James A Watkins 6 months ago from Chicago

      tsadjatko~I love the way you put this: "it's purpose is not "to promote love and unity between ALL people" but to reveal God to sinful man and provide him salvation."

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      James A Watkins 6 months ago from Chicago

      Thank you so much Wesman Todd Show for the awesome accolades. You made my day, brother!

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      James A Watkins 6 months ago from Chicago

      Jay C OBrien~ The big difference between the Christian Faith and all other religions is that the others are based on the teachings of a person such as Mohammed or Buddha; Christianity is founded on what is taught ABOUT the person of Christ. The Christian Faith is not about believing in His teachings; it is about believing in what is taught about Him. The Creeds of the Christians do not mention the teachings of Jesus but instead articulate who He is.

      It is not true that all religions are different paths to the same place. The founders of other religions were not rivals vying for the crown Jesus wears. Mohammed, Moses, Buddha, and Confucius never made the claims Jesus made. Only in the Christian Faith is the very Name of its founder said to possess supernatural power.

      The Christian Faith alone makes the astonishing assertion that the Creator of the World came down to Earth as a man. In no other religion is a man presented as God Incarnate. Jews do not think Moses to be Jehovah; the Muslims do not think Mohammed is Allah. Buddha did not believe in God.

      Jesus said, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” You must come to grips with the fact that this is an exclusive offer. Jesus is not saying He is ‘one of many paths’ to God but the One and the Only Way. Only Jesus came down from Heaven.

      The religions of the world and their founders are often grouped together but they show very little common character.

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      James A Watkins 6 months ago from Chicago

      Jay C OBrien~ Baha'i is an interesting proposition. I love the book 'The Seven Mysteries of God.' But in the end, God does not contradict Himself. God said Jesus was His Only Son; and that Jesus is Lord and Savior of the Universe; and that Jesus was the only Person ever resurrected. Allah says that is all rubbish. Therefore, these opposite messages cannot come from the same source.

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      James A Watkins 6 months ago from Chicago

      Syncretists preach that all religions are the same. The Theosophists built a pantheon for pantheists—a Parliament of Religions. Christians are welcome as long as they place Jesus no higher than Osiris, Attis, Mithras, Ammon, Apollo, Zeus, or Jupiter. To appear broadminded we are expected to boil down all religions, myths, and mysteries into a lukewarm liquid in a great pot of cosmopolitan corruption. The conscious cult of demons is also welcome by egalitarian society with its witchcraft and sexual rituals—hopefully without its human sacrifice.

      Pagan mythology and folklore about goblins in the woods, elves, leprechauns, fairies of the forests, trolls, and nymphs—from Valhalla to Mt Olympus we have stories we sympathize with as men or we wouldn’t be human. But these myths were never a religion in the sense that Judaism, Islam, and the Christian Faith are religions. Odin and Thor and Freya are on par with Jack and the Beanstalk not Jesus of Nazareth.

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      Bee 5 days ago

      Apparently the New Age was consciously created by the illuminati (according to many whistleblowers who were once members). It was to point people away from God.

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