What is the Luciferian Doctrine?

Lucifer and all his works!

The symbol for Lucifer know as "Nephilim Sigil"
The symbol for Lucifer know as "Nephilim Sigil" | Source
This is the "god of the witches" with his arms "he" points to the sky and to earth which represents the old magical creed what is "That which is above is the same as which is below."
This is the "god of the witches" with his arms "he" points to the sky and to earth which represents the old magical creed what is "That which is above is the same as which is below."
Lugh the celtic sun God who many say is just another name for Lucifer! He is also called "The Shineing One" or "The Light Bearer"
Lugh the celtic sun God who many say is just another name for Lucifer! He is also called "The Shining One" or "The Light Bearer"
Oh yes, the mysterious Illuminati! If you ask me, it is all a buch of Bull Snot!
Oh yes, the mysterious Illuminati! If you ask me, it is all a buch of Bull Snot!

What Is In A Name?

As I have stated in some of my earlier hubs, I was a Satanic Priest that started out belonging to “The Church of Satan” and then branched out into a more collective belief system that included several forms of witchcraft and Shamanism. Eventually I chose to perceive myself as a Luciferian, for it just did not sound as ominous or negative as being a Satanist! However, in Anton’s LayVay’s Satanic Bible, Lucifer is represented by the east and the element of air and considered one of the "four Crown Princes of Hell."

If you ask most people who admit too following the so called “Luciferian Doctrine” would tell you point blank that it does not have anything to do with Satan! It seems that Lucifer has become a metaphor for those who think that Christianity is an oppressing religion and Lucifer is the “light barer” who brings light and knowledge to mankind! Well before I take you on the journey to see what this Luciferian Doctrine is all about, we should first study the meaning of the word as it was originally created in Latin. As it has been stated in other hubs on the subject of Lucifer, this Latin word derives from lucern which means light and ferre which means to bear- in other words, a light bearer. In fact, some will want you to believe that the word Lucifer is nothing more than a type error, that its placement within the Bible was a mistake that had nothing to do with a fallen angle.

If this is true then Lucifer has become the most powerful “type error” of all time! For even though the word is only mentioned in the very earliest version of the King James Bible does not mean that the word was not used in many other text and has had a great influence and meaning for many philosophies within the Occult!

However, to get a grasp on the depth of this subject we must travel back to the very beginning of civilization! To start, I would like to ask an important question for you all to ponder. Why do you think Babylon has been such a big deal within the context of the Bible? Why has it been used in metaphor and reference to evil more often than any other nation within the Bible, right up to Revelation?

Now if you seriously study the occult as I had for over twenty years of my life, you will see that some of the main sources of influence are Babylon and Egypt. In fact I will dare to say that you can find most of the roots to most of the pagan gods, in these two areas of the world. In my hub The Coming of Nibru I already point out the fact the Sumerians were the instigators of most “magical” beliefs and their ancient text has been a huge influence even in today's Ufology.

The best way for us to connect the dots and get a complete picture of this mysterious entity which has been called Lucifer, is to start in recent times and then work backwards. To do this, let us all gather into my “time hub” and head back to the year 1966! This is a very important year, for a lot of things were happening at the same time that as strange as it may appear at first, was connected! This was of course during the time of the hippie movement or free love” This is the same year that LSD and other psychedelics became illegal in the U.S.

Timothy Leary was in jail and the Vietnam war was ragging. It was also “year one” for the “Age of Satan" or “Anno Satanas” If you prefer Latin. This is when Anton Santon LayVay officially started his church on May first. Anton claimed he was presenting some new concepts but what he was actually doing was reintroducing and repackaging concepts that have its roots in prehistory, or at least far enough back that men have lost track of the detail!

We can, however track some of the concepts that Mr.LayVay used in the Satanic Bible back to other sources that claim to be a translation of magical text that was said to be associated with an Egyptian mage named Abramelin. Or Abra-Melin, who taught a system of magic to Abraham of Worms who was said to be German Jew who lived from c.1362-c.1458. This is a book that was “translated” by Samuel Liddel MacGregor Mathers to English from German. This book is “The Sacred Book of Abramelin the Mage.”

Now, the interesting part about this is in this book that was said to be connected to the Hebrew Cabala and it refers to Lucifer! It is also important to understand that Mr. Mathers was one of the founders of the Golden Dawn. This magical order has become one of the most influential organizations in modern Occultism. Samuel Mathers was one of the main mentors of Aleister Crowley. These two men are said to be the elite of the 20th century Occults and yet they did not have a problem with Lucifer coming from a manuscript that was said to originate from Hebrew! It does seem strange does it not?

For those who are not familiar with Aleister Crowley, he has been considered overall to be the most authoritative influence of modern Occultism. For not only did he excel in ranks of the Golden Dawn he went on to create his own religion complete with its own age, (The Eon of Horus)! Aleister Crowley had a strong connection with what he saw as Lucifer and Horus. It was while he was in Egypt that he said he was contacted by an entity he would call Aiwass who he claimed “dictated” The Book Of The Law to him. This would be the “god” of his new religion which he would call Thelema. Besides his extensive involvement in the Occult, he was also a poet who wrote a poem about Lucifer. I have decided to only include part of that poem at the end of part one, for I do want to give Mr. Crowley any more print that is needed to convey my point about his belief in Lucifer as an actual presence.

However, it will be Aleister who leads us back to the Sumerian culture, the very “cradle of civilisation.” For as he looked back on his life and his views about this alleged spirit that was said to contact him in Egypt, he maid the following statement:

"I am now incline to believe that Aiwass is not only the god once held holy in Sumer (or Sumeria), and mine own Guardian Angel, but also a man as I am, in so far as He uses a human body to make His magical link with Mankind, whom He loves!” Okay, so let us take peek at these so called gods and how they showed their love for mankind!

The first thing that jumps out at me when I read the translation of the Sumerian text is that there was a strong belief that humans were the slaves of the gods of this ancient city known as Sumer. These gods that have become known as the Anunnaki were said to have created humans to mine gold! This slave mentality must have found its way into the subconscious of the culture and yet, when the descendants of the Sumerians built Babylon they did not perceive themselves as slaves and instead went about conquering and enslaving every country they could! Was it their way to compensate for the fact that their ancestors were once slaves themselves?

It is time to turn to the Bible verse that is at the heart of this whole discussion, Isaiah 14: 3-27. For it is important to study all of the verses that relate to this subject and then to understand the context in which they are delivered! For I strongly feel that these verses are not only talking about a king of Babylon, but the spirit behind everything Babylon did and still represents today! To clarify my point, let us first take a look at the purpose behind the book Isaiah.

Similar to the book of Daniel, Isaiah deals with prophecies that helps illuminate God’s plan of salvation and God’s Judgement of the wicked. This is why I believe that some of the symbolism in Daniel can be applied to Isaiah’s time as well! Isaiah words were not just intended for the children of Israel, but also as a direct message to the Assyrian Empire! The most obvious reason for drawing this conclusion is what is declared by “The Lord of Heavens Armies” starting with verse 22…”I myself, have risen against Babylon! I will destroy its children and its children and its children’s children.” He (God) promises to make Babylon a desolate place and to “sweep the land with destruction.” Now then,if we explore just a bit farther into this, we should take peek at Daniel and what is said about the "spirit prince" of the king of Persia in Daniel 10:12 This is just one illustration that I feel applies to Isaiah 14: 10 “the spirits of world leaders and mighty kings long dead” seems to me that Isaiah is addressing someone with a bit more power that can be represented by a mortal king!

After spending much time researching this subject for this article and my past research, from an Occultist point of view leads me to the conclusion that God though his prophet Isaiah, was confronting a spiritual presence. This is the same spirit that God has given the title “the Satan.” This is again addressed in Ezekiel 28, for it begins speaking about the Prince of Tyre and yet Ezekiel switches gears in verse 1-19 and begins addressing a spirit which was ”the model of perfection full of wisdom and exquisite in beauty.” This glorious being was “blameless” until evil was found in him (verse 15).

Before I continue with this “doctrine” that some claim to be the philosophy of the Freemasons and other “secret” organisations, I will like to share two quotes that sums up what I have been attempting to portray in this commentary. The two quotes are from Ephesians 6: 12 using the NLT study Bible and a passage from Aleister Crowley. I will start with Ephesians then move into Aleister’s view of Lucifer. “For we are not fighting against flesh and blood enemies, but against evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world, and against evil spirits in the heavenly places…” This to me is the bottom line, for I see life as war involving two spiritual governments. We, as humans must decide what side we are on!

Hymn to Lucifer.”
His body a bloody-ruby radiant
With noble passion, sun-soiled Lucifer
Swept through the dawn colossal, swift aslant
On Eden's imbecile perimeter.
He blessed nonentity with every curse
And spiced with sorrow the dull soul of sense,
Breathed life into the sterile universe,
With Love and Knowledge drove out innocence
the key of Joy is disobedience.

Now the reason why I use this passage from the poem, is the last line which was the mind set I had when I practised the Occult. In a lot of ways I was rebellious for disobedience sake alone! I have decided that since this subject is so extensive and controversial, that I would break it into “bit size chunks”. This first section has taken a peek at the circumstance behind the use of the word Lucifer while the second hub will dive more deeply into the beliefs involved with Lucifer.

Before I end this section I would like you to consider one more statement which is in fact one of the most profound and conclusive statements to do with occult theory and that is…"That which is above is the same as that which is below” It is this one statement that is said to be behind all magical principals. To me, this brings it back to “the Serpent’s “original lie…”You will be like gods knowing both good and evil.” Another way to put it would be “all is one and one is all”…which is of course is from Led Zeppelin’s “Stairway to heaven.” Before I publish the next hub on this subject I also suggest that you read my hub “The Devil Wears Camouflage” for it give more clarity on these views as does the video I have up loaded. Here is my teaser to what you can expect from Part Two:

Artificial Light verses the True Light: The Conspiracy behind The Conspiracy.

  • More symbols and gods connected to Lucifer·
  • Lucifer and his “big umbrella”
  • An over view of the FreeMasons and what they represent.
  • The Illuminati, does it still exist?


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someonewhoknows 5 years ago from south and west of canada,north of ohio

So,what do you think of the founding fathers of America?

I heard many if not most of them were freemasons.Could it be that some freemasons rebelled against the beliefs of freemasonary?

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andromida 5 years ago

I can't wait for the second part.After reading the second part I will make my comments.Thanks a lot

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Highvoltagewriter 5 years ago from Savannah GA. Author

Hello SOWK, The freemasons are somewhat different in many countries...and freemasons have changed a lot over the years. Then you must consider the different levels for each one is different…So who is to say what the mind set of the founding fathers were? The bottom line is that MOST of the major Occultist was thirty three degree Masons which is the highest rank one can get besides being Grand Master.

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Highvoltagewriter 5 years ago from Savannah GA. Author

Yes andromida I was going to make it one hub and then I came to realize there was just too much info to put in one hub without boring every one to death! That is the problem with doing a hub on subject like this you have to make judgment calls on what to leave in and what to leave out!

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Marliza Gunter 5 years ago from South Africa

I will be following these hubs..rather write everything and leave nothing out...

You mentioned the magic principal.."That which is above is the same as that which is below” ...when I read the bible for the first time, I found some shocking resemblances between the two me magic and the Golden Dawn was derived from the bible principals, but just that it was twisted, for instance...

Acts 17:28 (KJV)

For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. (Acts 17:28, KJV)

This was the basis for the belief system to manifest things out of nothing...and there is more alignments like these...Satan knew how the power of God worked and taught that to mankind.

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Highvoltagewriter 5 years ago from Savannah GA. Author

Yes Martiza, I agree with you for Satan is the greatest copy catter of all time!He distorts the truth and even has bits of truth within "the magical systems." I will look forward for more of your insights!

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James A Watkins 5 years ago from Chicago

This is great! I look forward to the followup. I learned much from this episode. Thank you for the illumination.

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Marliza Gunter 5 years ago from South Africa

Oh..and that reminds me... I had an original Free Masons bible in my hook and by crook it was loaned to me for a few weeks so I might read it... it was a bible from 4 generations in the family and signed by the fathers with the dates... guess what... it was the exact King James Bible 1611... so how on earth the Golden Dawn got all their ritualistic facts wrong and how the Free Masons got to the pyramid belief that man is God..well, I have no idea.. the bible had a leather cover and had the Free Mason symbol engraved in gold on it..

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Highvoltagewriter 5 years ago from Savannah GA. Author

Hay James, I glad you learned some things for I have also!

Really Marliza? Wow, this is interesting since I have never read the original King James with Lucifer in it....If you have any more insights that I may not be awarelet me know!

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Erin LeFey 5 years ago from Maryland

Interesting article, great research. I align myself with pagan magickal systems and beliefs but have been taught Catholic and studied several more. I've heard much of what you say in different formats, but yours is so interesting and you add so much more. Thank you for writing and look forward to reading more.

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Highvoltagewriter 5 years ago from Savannah GA. Author

Hang on tight for Part Two will deliver many more insights that MAY be alttle up seting to some one from your back ground...All I can say is DON'T SHOOT THE MESSAGER!:)

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Anjili 5 years ago from planet earth, a humanoid

Hi Highvoltage,

Thanks for your revealing, insiteful and illuminating hubs. Will be following the next part and hope my fellow hubbers in anti-Christ forum topics get to read your findings too. Keep up with the good work and thanks for the share.

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Highvoltagewriter 5 years ago from Savannah GA. Author

Hay Anjili, the reason I wrote this in the first place was to respond to a hub written by agnostic friend who wrote a hub about Lucifer that I felt just did not go far enough. The next one will be very controversial and looks like it will end up being quite large will lead to even more hubs, for the subject is massive.

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Trish_M 5 years ago from The English Midlands

Hi :)

Had you noticed this?

"That which is above is the same as that which is below” = "On Earth as it is in Heaven"

As you know, I have written about Lucifer and do not see anything evil or 'Satanic' in the character.

Indeed, I don't think that the character 'Satan' is particularly 'Satanic'.

This hub is quite frightening, but it is not because of Satan or Lucifer, it is about the power of the human imagination and subconscious mind.

If we immerse ourselves in something, then we have a tendency to absorb it. We can invent, become obsessed with, believe in, worship, etc, something which does not really exist, but which can become extremely dangerous to us.

These characters are just that ~ imaginary characters from folk stories. They can only hurt us if we let them. We ~ our imaginations ~ control them and control our reactions to them.

Yes, they can be harnful ~ but the harm comes from within, not without.

I do not believe in devils and demons. I do not think that the devil, or Satan or Lucifer exist, except as invented aspects of ancient stories.

Once people start believing in them ~ praising them, having masses to them, singing and dancing for them, worshiping them, etc ~ that is when they become harmful, because we can become obsessed and terrified by products of our own imaginations.

'Lucifer' means 'bearer of Light'. He represents Venus. He is a character of ancient mythology. That is it ~ unless we allow our imaginations to run riot.

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Highvoltagewriter 5 years ago from Savannah GA. Author

Trish...if you have been though what I have been though in regards to spiritual realities I think you would draw a different conclusion. People have become obsessed with many things both real and imagined. I will make a prediction for what will soon be happening on this planet, let us see if it comes true...

I predict that UFO sightings and other unexplained occurrences will increase in the next year, at about the same time, there we be intense Solar activity and many other bazaar things happening all over the world. Do not miss my next hub on this for it will go into this in more detail!

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Trish_M 5 years ago from The English Midlands

Don't get me wrong, Highvoltagewriter, I believe in your terrifying experiences ~ I just don't attribute them to the same origins.

I also believe that people experience UFO sightings ~ I just do not know what their origin is.

I think that Solar activity may increase, too. That's what the scientists seem to be expecting, I think.

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Highvoltagewriter 5 years ago from Savannah GA. Author

Yes, Trish...increased solar activity is what NASA predicts and this was also predicted in the Book of Revelation! It is hard for us to get on the same page for I believe in the spirit realm and you do not!

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Trish_M 5 years ago from The English Midlands

Hi :)

Not quite. I am agnostic. I acknowledge that there are unexplained mysteries ~ I do not know the explanations for them.

I have had experiences, and so have some of my friends and relatives, which might be termed 'mystical', so it is not that I disbelieve everything. I just don't know what the explanations are.

But I am not going to believe in what the Bible says, just because the Bible says it. Furthermore, some beliefs that seem to be related to being a Christian, for example, seem to be misinterpretations of the Bible, anyway.

If there are, indeed, evil spirits, then perhaps they are the spirits / ghosts of bad people ~ not quite the same as devils are demons.

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Highvoltagewriter 5 years ago from Savannah GA. Author

Yea I am just like you in that regard...for I do not believe what the Bible says just because the Bible says it. I believe because of the experience that has led me back to coming to the conclusion that I had miss something before....this is something that is hard for me to put into words, but it was not because of something that happened on an intellectual level.

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davidkaluge 5 years ago

it seems there is a struggle for the true light and every party claims originalit, yet we may never know the real truth. What made you leave the occult pratice and other doctrines you followed and what is your current position?

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Highvoltagewriter 5 years ago from Savannah GA. Author

Hello davidkaluge and thanks for dropping in! To answer your questions I would suggest that you read "From Satanist to Salvation" which is a three part series of hubs that answer these questions in more detail. The short answer is I felt I was loosing my mind for I was not sure what reality was anymore! After years of searching and shaking my fist at God I became a Christian which I am now!

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magnoliazz 5 years ago from Wisconsin

Awesome, you have done it again...I can't wait to go over and read part two.

I was gone for a few weeks, but I am back now,

I just wrote two new hubs, Are UFOs Demonic? Part One and Part Two.

The way I am beginning to see it, there never were aliens from outer space. I know scientists could never buy it, and the more research I did into UFOs the more I believe they are of the spirit world. I go into that in depth in these two hubs, I hope you will tell me what you think about it.

I sure am happy that someone with your intelligence is on our side. I am always in awe of how much you know and how you can make a very difficult subject like the occult easy to understand. You know, there was a time that I was so spiritually unsophisticated that I really did not believe that people could work magik through occult studies, etc, now I know they can, thanks to your informative hubs.

Thanks so much,,,I voted you up, up up!

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Highvoltagewriter 5 years ago from Savannah GA. Author

Thank you for stopping by Mag! (Can I call you Mag)? :) Anyhow my final hub has taken awhile to finnish but I am going to publih it soon. I will also be reading your stuff in the near futuer!

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ii3rittles 5 years ago

I love how people don't realize these people are real and where ever you found a lot of money in history, they were behind it. Just like the whole UFO thing... UFO's or "aliens" are demons. They are just more appealing to this day and age. Back in the day the demons posed as "gods". When people stop over thinking things, everything makes more sense. Great hub!

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Highvoltagewriter 5 years ago from Savannah GA. Author

Thanks for dropping in ii3rittles and hope you explore some of my other hubs for I go even deeper into the UFO aspects.

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Jarn 5 years ago from Sebastian, Fl

Funny how much of what modern Christianity and Satanism takes as fact was originally fiction or based on a misunderstanding. Probably the strongest example I can present is the fact that Lucifer is not a fallen angel, nor is he Satan.

It should be noted that the name Lucifer only appears in the Old Testament, which we all know was based from Hebrew texts. The Hebrews did not have a conception of fallen angels, though it was accepted that the angels could do wrong since they coupled with human women and created nephilim, an act which God had not sanctioned. Since there were no fallen angels, the term “Ha Satan” equated to “the adversary,” a sort of designated naysayer whom God appointed to pick at every decision He ever made so He was forced to prove his actions were just and not tyrannical. The Book of Job is probably the best example of the dynamic between God and the designated adversary.

Christianity was tacked onto certain Judaic texts in order to show how the new kid on the block tied in with the established religion. This was an excellent marketing tactic, in my opinion. And while I would dearly love to believe that Jesus existed and was the son of God, there is a great deal of evidence to suggest that Jesus was an amalgamation of folk tales, much like Robin Hood was. The fact that the earliest of the four gospels was written about 30 years after the date of Christ’s supposed death and the latest was written almost 200 years later, even had Christ been real there was a significant likelihood that the New Testament was heavily embellished, which might be in part an explanation for how a relatively benign creature such as “the adversary” became a fallen angel and the source of all evil. Looking at the two belief systems, there’s not a whole lot of room for compromise here, suggesting either one or both are wrong.

Back to the matter at hand. The confusion between the Christian concepts of Satan with harmless Lucifer came from a misreading and mistranslation from the Tanakh, a part of what we consider the Old Testament which was in Biblical Hebrew up to the 9th century and was translated to French and Latin later. Specifically, Isaiah 14:12 came to read: “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning.” There was originally a full stop between “heaven” and “O Lucifer,” indicating two separate thoughts, the first being directed toward Nebuchadnezzar, the King of Babylon. He was an evil man who took the Jews into slavery for several decades, and as such was dramatized in the Book of Isaiah as “Ha Satan”. Here we see evidence that the term “adversary” was not reserved for a single being, nor was it the source of evil or wisdom that Christianity, Satanism, and the Luciferian Doctrine would lead one to believe.

The problem was St. Jerome and the other Church fathers, who couldn’t read Hebrew and had to rely upon the erroneous translation, took Lucifer to be synonymous with Satan and promptly began using the names interchangeably. This was not helped by Milton’s Paradise Lost using the name Lucifer to refer to the fallen angel of pride, even though he went on record many times as saying it was a complete work of fiction.

The bottom line is that the Luciferian Doctrine, Satanism, and even a lot of Christian doctrine even are based on apocryphal fictions or misunderstandings. As such, it is extremely difficult to give credence to this article and those that follow, what with the extremely shaky foundations and the tendency to veer off in directions which have little to no historical basis.

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Highvoltagewriter 5 years ago from Savannah GA. Author

It is obvious that you did not actually read my hub, you just read at it! Also to get the full context of what I am applying you should also read the rest of the hubs in this three part sires. It is obvious that you have a lot of book learning on the subject but you miss some key points.

One of the points you miss is that if you really study Isaiah you will realise like Daniel and Ezekiel, Isaiah did not only speak of the physical but also spiritual things and there are many indications that he was not just speaking of a king but of spirit that did fall from heaven.

Another thing, which Nebuchadnezzar are you referring to? The first or the second one? Even Scholars that have studied these things for as almost as many years as you have been alive, are not fully convinced that it was Nebuchadnezzar!

You find over and over again the "so called" miss-use of the word Lucifer for even in "The Gospel of the Witches" it speaks of Lucifer being the brother of Diana AND of being kicked out of Paradise by God! I write about this in my "conclusion" of this series.

Now on to your foolish statement about how Christianity had "tack on few Judaic text" is completely untrue for if you would really study the Bible you will find that the over and over again the Old Testament speaks of Jesus and here are just a few of these that does this...

Genesis 49:10

Daniel 9:24-27

Isaiah 52: 13-53

Going from there you make a statement about Jesus being made up, and yet there are many scholars both Jewish and Gentile who make references to Jesus. For example, there was Mishmash and Josephus in AD 37-100 who wrote about Jesus. Then there was Thallus, Serapion, Tacitus and Suetonius. I will also come back give a link of a video you can watch that will go into more detail about these historians,

This is enough for now...but if you need more, I will give you more!

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angel115707 4 years ago from Galveston, TX

I enjoy reading from your experience... I have read the entire bible, amplified as well, the Egyptian book of the dead, Enoch, and when I was young and impressionable, I read the necronomicon just for education... so I know the enemy... Crowly was pathetic the necronomicon admitted that nothing would ultimately work and all worship will end badly for the satanist and that all curses will end on the magician etc.. it was a tall tale in circles, it is amusing the way luciferian nuts try to claim they understand Ancient Egypt and many Ancient texts when clearly Egypts priests longed for Holiness... they were wrong of course in many ways, pagans worship what they like about god and throw out the rest, but no doubt in many texts they sought thing luciferians can't stand...they crave innocence, holiness and purity only to devour it... I think they feel special pretending all ancient texts are theirs...the book of Enoch describes their stupidity very well....Babylon no doubt was evil the slavery/gods thing UFO etc is much like Aztec and Aborigonal stories...creepy, I really think they were no other than fallen angels listed out in Enoch...

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Highvoltagewriter 4 years ago from Savannah GA. Author

Hello angel115707 I enjoyed your comments for it quite obvious that you are well read in many areas. In fact, I am very interested in your observations on the book of Enoch. This one book I have not had the opportunity to fully read it. Let me know if you have any more insights on these subjects in any of the the hubs you have wrote.

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angel115707 4 years ago from Galveston, TX

Enoch is worth the read,I haven't published much on personal things because 99% of the world just can't handle it, I usally have it coded and embedded in my poetry... giving those who want to go deeper the keys to do so, and those who don't fly right, unless you read the ancient's texts, you just don't get it lol...You know a lot, but most today only know Ipads and Angry Birds

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Jarn 4 years ago from Sebastian, Fl

You know, disagreement over the interpretation of texts and doctrine is something I actively enjoy. But insults, condescension, and arrogance toward someone else simply trying to have a conversation crosses a line, aside from being an ad hominem. What's worse, it indicates a closed mind. Any respect for you, your education, or your arguments was lost the moment you chose to insult me. We're done.

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Highvoltagewriter 4 years ago from Savannah GA. Author

The way you first presented your statement also sounded pretty arrogant! Why don't you reread your own words in your first response?

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Loladusk 4 years ago from Vancouver Island, BC Canada

Wow, it took a bit to get down to make a comment, I enjoyed this hub, will be reading further hubs of yours for sure. I have been studying the Occult for over 20 years, it has been a part of my life directly and indirectly since I was a small child, when the voice first spoke to me I was about 4 years old.. Sometimes I am more aware and involved than others, I raised my children, to understand that it is fear of the unknown that stops one from the experience of your time here and that is this restriction of self that stops you from Life/Evil.. and you must see both sides to maintain a middle ground or middle pillar.. taking sides has never worked, they are both in error as they must see the compliment in becoming free from the left or right..this has taken me to have an understanding and acceptance for myself and my choices as well as broadened my perspectives as to have understanding for others and their path takes its turns.I am a hypnotherapist and have come to believe perspective is everything. Cheers.. thanks for sharing your wisdom and understanding..

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Highvoltagewriter 4 years ago from Savannah GA. Author

Thank you so much for checking this hub out Loladusk, I also hope that you read the rest of of this series, for I would be greatly interested in your feedback.

Neophyte 4 years ago

If only one would look to the right source, you will find it written by one of the most prominent Freemasons of all time... Even by Levi, whom, was a grand maste of the Rosicrucians and a Magi... The both write; Lucifer is the God of good and Light and Adonay is the god of bad and darkness. If you truly want to know the truth, seek out the Christos, learn what it is and why we have it in our possession. Then, if you are worthy, the Master will appear.

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Highvoltagewriter 4 years ago from Savannah GA. Author

I am not even sure how to reply to all that, for I have come across some veg references that you speak of and to be speak in riddles! If you read more of my work you may see were I coming from...

Elijah 4 years ago

Satan used to be powerful, but after Jesus was ressurected by the power of the Holy Chost satan lost his power; you need to remember what happened in the beggining when Adam sold his authority to satan by bowing to him, satan was in control of everything including mankind, Jesus died for the sins of the whole world and saved them, so then satan has lost his power over mankind, man has given power to choose meaning man has a freewill or we can say freedom(free to dominate). Satan cannot impose himself on us, we as people we give him a fothole to enter us, bearing in mind that satan s wisdom was not taken from him he knows how to propel in believing his lies. People need that satan cannot speak truth; it is normal for him to lie, he will tell a lie then it is you who will give him a foothole by believing that lie.

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Highvoltagewriter 4 years ago from Savannah GA. Author

However we do not do battle against flesh and blood...It is true that we have free will and give Satan a foot hold, and yet Satan will be doing whatever he can to "devour" the minds and souls of the people of this world!

martinnitsim 4 years ago

you ok gary it took me ages to find it this is the web address

and some info ,ring them for advice ,just say martin n said you would sort him out

kkhankhole 4 years ago

i am an iranian luceferian

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Highvoltagewriter 4 years ago from Savannah GA. Author

I guess all I can say to the last two comments is WHAT?? Iranian Luceferian? REALLY? How does that work?

newenglandsun 3 years ago

A: Maybe an Iranian Luciferian is a Luciferian from Iran? Maybe he also typoed "Lucefarian" and meant "Luciferian".

Your hub is entitled "Luciferian doctrine". There is no "Luciferian doctrine". It is entirely an individualistic religion. I am a Luciferian and I pretty much just make up things as I go. I see Lucifer as the light bearer giving light to the oppressed and showing them how to be light.

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karthikkash 3 years ago from India

A few thoughts from what I have learnt about Satanism. Of course, I am not a Luciferian nor have I read about Luciferian doctrine. My thoughts are more from the point of Satanism as I have recently taken up spiritual satanism.

History and religious text like Bible and Torah have messed up the Sumerian Lucifer and Satan in the worst way. They have slandered the ancient gods in the most horrible way, to meet their selfish ends. Even scholars like Sitchin have made some serious errors (may not be deliberately. The interpretations may be wrong).

To quote a few examples:

1) Bible calls Lucifer as the "fallen angel" and his "demons" as fallen angels. The original word never meant to be "fallen", but actually meant, those who came down from the sky.

2) Sitchin says that humans were the "slave race". But more research has brought into light that humans were not a slave race, but just the creation of the Anunnaki. Enki, the supreme Sumerian god was known to be the master of science and technology, and is said to have created humans through DNA splitting. There are accounts where it is said that humans are 66.6% alien DNA (possibly the DNA of Enki himself).

3) Another reason why humans may not have been slave race is found in the ancient Sumerian texts. When the great deluge came (the original story of the floods/Gilgamesh), Enki, Astaroth and other gods are said to have cried at the destruction of humans. An excerpt from the texts talk about Enki calling humans his children.

4) It is also said that Enki/Astaroth and other gods had developed affinity towards humans and did not want to destroy humans. Enlil who was the original god who brought down the destruction is known to have made peace with humans immediately after, as he realized the situation.

5) "Satan" does not mean evil, but according to the original Hebrew texts means "the enemy". The question is, enemy of what? Nowhere in scriptures has it been mentioned that he was the enemy of good.

6) Satan was also originally "Say-tan", the god of the Yezidis/Yazidis. Also known by different names like Enki/Malek Taus/Osiris and so on. While Egypt and Sumer are known to have been the biggest contributors, Vedic texts (ancient India) are known to have contributed equally.

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