Motherpeace Round Tarot Court Cards

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The Motherpeace round tarot deck is original and unique for several reasons. It was the first tarot deck comprised of round cards, a whimsical twist which made the deck more interesting than others available at that time. Most importantly, it was the first deck which viewed life through the lens of Feminism, as it was created during the height of the Women’s Liberation movement in the United States during the 1970’s. These images were the brainchild of Vicki Noble and Karen Vogel, two writing and research partners in California, who drew on their combined knowledge and inspiration of the ancient archeology, history and art of women from all cultures.

The U.S. was also engaged in the very unpopular Vietnam War during this same period, and both women had anti-war philosophies. They knew from their careers in various women’s studies that in prehistoric times, Matriarchal societies lived together in harmony and peace. They grew food, raised their children, and cared for their bodies in tune with the cycles of the Earth and Moon. Everyone helped with everyday tasks together, all the children taken care of by everyone as if they were all one family, as can be seen on pictures in caves which portray mothers sharing food with their offspring, food which the men gathered for all the tribe to eat. These children were heirs to the female line of descent, and though men were a big part of the social structure, there was no such concept of Paternity as it is known today. These were the actions of a culture which survived through people caring for and nurturing each other, sharing the Earth’s bounty, not people trying to make war and kill each other.

Together, Ms. Noble and Ms. Vogel delved into studies of diverse cultures and artwork of Goddess art figures dating back to 30,000 years. They saw how women evolved for five million years in Africa, The Americas, Australia, Asia and Europe. They found evidence of women healers, Shamans, artists and storytellers. In ancient times most important facts and events were passed on to other generations through stories or art and song. The learned ones thought their histories could more safely be preserved in the form of a game, so this is how much of their spiritual identity and philosophy was saved and passed on, in a game called the Tarot. Occult wisdom and customs could be passed if they could be hidden so it would be available for the future. Women feared that male leaders would not want women to gain power.

The message in the Motherpeace round tarot cards is one of a world view from early times, when people respected the Earth and lived by its cycles. A high value was placed on emotional expression and the celebrations of rituals and rites of passage. Each person was celebrated as unique and a wanted individual with something good to contribute to society. But it is approached in a more heart-centered and healing type of way. Its role is to teach women to reclaim their strength and power, to assure them they have no limitations, although men often try to place limits on them. This deck is an artistic attempt to show how a culture can once again exist in Peace, and use its energies to heal, and not to destroy, our civilization.

The Motherpeace Round Tarot Deck: 78-Card Deck
The Motherpeace Round Tarot Deck: 78-Card Deck

These are the larger 5" diameter cards, and I recommend them because you can see the extreme amount of detail clearly. These are a unique and great gift for anyone who is interested in Tarot, art, or women's rights, as the deck was drawn at the height of the Feminist movement of the '60s!


Matriarchal Societies Without War

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Many early pictures and sculptures of “Venus” were found in Stone Age Europe and in pre-Columbian statues found in Mexico and the Americas. This helps to prove that Goddesses were respected and revered mythic presences all around the world. During the Ice Age, around 10,000 B.C., pictures were found on cave walls which portrayed male figures wearing animal skins and dancing. These are Shamanic rituals, as they show figures that are part man, part animal. But the earliest images of people that are known were in a cave in Pech-Merle, France, a cave sanctuary which shows pictures of two women. One has no head, and the other is a bird-headed female, apparently ready to leave her body to set off on a shamanic journey to the spirit world. Shamansim is a religion where the Shaman had the ability to leave the physical body and go on journeys, usually to heal the physical body or the spirit, and then return to the body. This was thought to be a male religion, and the Shaman also had assistance from the animal world. Our most recent Shamans are the Native American medicine men and women. Our current return to the Goddess is showing up in our culture with renewed interest. Many professionals who study sleep habits and dreams believe that people can and do leave their physical bodies during sleep.

These Goddesses also represented fertility, as most were portrayed as pregnant, making no attempt to hide their rounded bellies or pendulous breasts. This sexual-creative power made men uncomfortable, because women could bleed without dying and give birth, two powers men did not possess. In the Middle East, pregnant women were known as Priestesses or “Holy Women of the Goddess”, and lived in temples, in the center of their communities. They owned property, transacted business, and were able to carry on their affairs freely. They performed Goddess rituals, to Inanna, Ishtar, Aphrodite, and Isis, in the land of Canaan. This seems ironic in a time where the lives of women are oppressed more in the Middle Eastern culture than anywhere else in the world now.

Wands Court Cards

Priestess of Wands
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Shaman of Wands
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All cards which depict people in the Motherpeace Round Tarot deck are based on Carl Jung’s archetypes, people with certain personality characteristics that are familiar to everyone. We all have people like these in our lives. The Rider- Waite Tarot deck is the most common and well loved deck and beginners usually learn to read with it. The Court Cards consist of Pages, Knights, Queens and Kings. Each deck calls them by different names, although their element (fire, water, air or earth) usually stays the same. The Motherpeace Round Tarot Deck has changed the Court Cards to Daughters, Sons, Priestesses and Shamans. The remaining fifty-six cards are still ruled by the four elements, but are called either Minor Arcana cards or pip cards. These cards cover all the possible situations a person will find themselves in during the course of everyday life. Many have come to love Motherpeace's unique and beautiful imagery. Most Tarot readers use the Rider-Waite deck, but are acquainted with several other favorites they also use to read.

Wands symbolize fire energy, power and authority—a time to act, because from those actions growth will take place. Wands stand for energy which is passionate, filled with the spirit. Daughters are young and filled with energy. They symbolize the “inner child” in all of us, emotions, and basic drives. The Daughter of Wands expresses herself by dancing and movement. She embraces change joyfully, and grows quickly. She is very expressive, wild and untamed. She wants to burst free, to run, dance and sing. Her passion demands to be let out, as this is a time of transformation for her, and her energy will carry her through this period of growth.

The Son of Wands represents ancient Shamanistic religion and contemporary witchcraft. His energy is also untamed, but he directs his warmth to focus his energy. He uses the power of his mind filled up with intuition and joy. He represents a time when fatherhood was an act of loving union and a natural progression in life, not a mode of ownership. This card comes up at a time when you feel alive, delighted, amusing and attractive. You are witty, charming, have lots of sexual energy, and it’s a period of playfulness and creativity.

The Priestess of Wands is a very powerful woman or Witch in action. She Mothers the group and is leader of the community. She collects energy and can meditate, to use her kundalini energies. These begin at the base of the spine and travel upward through the chakras of the body, ending at the top of the head at the crown chakra. She is warm, kind, and inspires people to accomplish tasks that are seemingly magical. She radiates healing light and blesses all who are near. The Lioness who walks beside her is her friend and familiar. When you get this card in a reading, you are feeling self-assured and have a strong sense of purpose. You have charisma, are powerful, and filled with energy. You know how to channel this energy in the right ways.

The Shaman of Wands represents positive male power and acts well in complex situations. The throne of the Pharaoh, and the Sun-god of Horus are the symbols that Kingship and of Patriarchal power are his. His hand is open in invitation, he is willing to explain himself, also ready to interact and listen to others. Shamans represent the time period from around 3,000 B.C, when Horus the falcon-god was deity of all Egypt. Now this Shaman represents old Matriarchal traditions and is a good liaison between men and women. He respects women, but has much personal power in his world—so is a strong and liberal presence. When this card shows up in a reading, a powerful personality is capable of accomplishing long term goals, has a warm, friendly personality and makes others want to cooperate.

Disc Court Cards

Daughter of Discs
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Son of Discs
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Priestess of Discs
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Shaman of Discs
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Discs depict Earth and whatever is physical to us, our bodies, money, or whatever is on the physical plane. They represent our health, the economy, the crops that grow in the soil, tangible things, our bodies, and our comfort levels. Pictures of Native American tribes are shown doing practical everyday chores, weaving, cooking, caring for children, all in harmony with nature. Discs, being circles, stand for feminine reproduction and perpetuation of our species, the beginning and the end of life. They symbolize barter and a fruitful harvest. They show a communal style of life, where the mother-child bond and group sharing are central, work is appreciated and meaningful, and everyone still makes time for art and music. Like Pentacles or symbols of womanhood, discs represent what is sacred and secret. The religion of the Goddess is a religion of the Earth which considers the planet and all its energies sacred.

The Daughter of Discs is a young girl on a vision quest, when she goes off alone in the desert seeking her life’s purpose through fasting and prayer. Most young Native American women leave their tribal homes for a few days to survive alone, asking for protection from nature and the Earth. She makes a stone circle of safety, and will sleep in a cave while waiting for a visionary dream. She will have a pipe handed down by an elder woman of the Lakota Sioux, and the advice, “With this sacred pipe you will walk upon the Earth, for the Earth is sacred. Every step taken on her should be a prayer. When you pray with this pipe, it becomes a Universal channel between the Daughter and the Earth Mother. It begins your journey as a Shaman.” When she returns from this journey, she will be transformed. She will know what her life task will be, and her psychic channels will be opened. Her power is beginning to rise. In a more modern take, this card signals a time of solitude for a young woman, as she learns to trust the wisdom of her changing body, and how to rely on her instincts. As she seeks truth, she will learn courage. Asking Earth for guidance gives her positive powers from the Universe.

The Son of Discs seen in the Motherpeace deck is an archer, ready to hit the bulls-eye with his bow. He is steady with both feet on the ground, very earthy and sensual. He enjoys the physical activity, but as he is in tune with nature, will not kill any more than he must to eat. His clothing is green like Robin Hood, or the Jack in the Green found in British and Scottish folklore. Dressing in green to be hidden in the trees would have been a protection for him. During the Middle Ages, people were killed for living the old Pagan traditions, both men and women. This young man is a builder and hard worker who enjoys working with his hands. He is faithful and reliable, never losing sight of his goals once they are set. When this card is seen in a reading, it shows the body is in good shape, health is good, and the plans you made and executed so perfectly will be fulfilled.

The Priestess of Discs represents the joys and nurturing aspects of Motherhood. She is exhilarated to play with this beautiful child that came from her own body, and respects her body by practicing yoga, eating healthy and natural foods. She represents agriculture by planting and harvesting and celebrating the Earth for its ability to provide for her needs. She is practicing yoga while her baby rests, and gathering her kundalini energies. Her Hopi shield shows two serpents biting each other’s tails, a circle of energy. She is able to attract money to herself when she needs it, and enjoys sculpting and painting. She has visions and understands them. She is very grounded in the physical world, in harmony with nature. She has inner calm and ESP, and when in discomfort, knows natural remedies to cure what ails her. She passes on the gift of her loving touch, attuned so that she can heal others.

The Shaman of Discs is a strong woman who knows what she wants and will not be swayed from her path. She has a strong sense of her internal direction. She knows what tasks are most important for her to accomplish for the sake of her karma, but she can still enjoy her solitary journey through the desert because of its natural beauty. Her mule is very sure-footed on the canyon trail. Physical Motherhood may be behind her now, and she may be starting to enjoy this new period of life where her childbearing and rearing years are over, and she can concentrate on her own desires, with less domestic work. The bald eagle on her side indicates clarity and long distance vision, plus wisdom. She may one of the Indian women who lived in the cliff dwellings in the southwestern U.S. This woman has reached an “elder” status, filled with self-discipline, perseverance, patience and strength. When you get this card, you know where you are going and how to get there. You have your own path to success. You are calm, trustworthy, and capable of working on your own. You have had much experience in the world, and want to try more!

Cups Court Cards

Daughter of Cups
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Son of Cups
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Priestess of Cups
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Shaman of Cups
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Cups are a feminine symbol of a vessel which holds water, or emotions, feelings, desires, dreams and visions. Cups are lunar and astral. They are represented by the Moon, or by silver. They are about female modes of expression, listening from within, deep, psychic feelings, symbols of the breasts and womb. The images are taken from the island of Crete, where Goddess culture once thrived. The blues and greens of the sea make one think of the realms of the dream world, where she gets plenty of her creative ideas. She experiences much pleasure in the water suit, a little moon magic and madness. Water is the element of ecstasy and bliss, where the heart is opened and love flows freely.

The Daughter of Cups represents the playful and affectionate part of the personality. She has a great sense of humor and likes to feel good. She knows when it is time to take a rest or day off, and is seen here floating on a lily pad, relaxing by a waterfall. Sometimes one must enjoy the beauty of nature and get away from the everyday rush, taking time to reassess their inner world. This young woman is receptive to all around her, and has creative visualizations, aiding in making her dreams come true. She can trust her feelings and psychic abilities. When you get this card in a reading, you are feeling very deep emotions. You have to pay some attention to your “inner child” and listen to your feelings, whether they are happy or sad ones. You do not have to work and be serious all the time. The relaxation time will pay off in all you learn about self-realization.

The Son of Cups is artistic, romantic and dreamy. He is a talented writer or musician. He represents the inner and thoughtful aspect of manhood, the quiet mind of meditation. The Son of Cups is the man most capable of expressing his feelings in this deck. He seems to float on the water as he plays his flute, in a symbolism of Krishna, the flute playing god of play and sexuality. He normally brings a gift, a message of good news, or a symbol of love. He sits in a trance state as he practices yoga. He can connect with both his mind and his feelings, and is capable of taking a Shamanic journey to bring back information from other realms. He offers his artistic creations as a gift straight from the heart, the deepest part of himself. When you get this card in a reading, you are ready to open your heart, forgive someone, or fall in love.

The Priestess of Cups is the Muse, she knows how to best channel her emotions and inner visions into what she desires. She is shown as a Mermaid, which is short for “Merry Maid” the Witch name for a coven’s High Priestess. She represents the Soul, the inner part of our being and meditates between our world, the sky and the Earth. This woman is the Enchantress. In mythology, she entices young male heroes to forego their quests for awhile to just enjoy spending some time with her. Odysseus was drawn by the enchantress Calypso, just as Ulysses is seduced by Circe, daughter of Hecate the Crone, remaining on her island for seven years. When you get this card in a reading, draw your power into yourself. You could be pregnant, or ready to give birth to a new creative project that you have worked on for a long time. Your feelings and desires may make it hard for you to focus on everyday tasks.

The Shaman of Cups is a symbol of the dark powers of the Moon. The Shaman has painted her face white to mask herself for spiritual work. She represents feelings that are under control, passion transmuted into a sort of detached awareness. She has a large cauldron and adds ingredients to practice the art of Alchemy, changing one element into another. This Shaman magically controls her environment, and works on spells that will benefit her neighborhood and the religion of the Goddess. She is a good judge of character and situations. She has confronted and conquered Death, realizing it is only a form of change, so has the courage and willingness to do whatever needs to be done. Sometimes her wisdom is something one does not want to hear, although it will definitely benefit them. When you get this card, know that you will need to put all your energy and focus into the task at hand. You may have to sacrifice your personal goals for the goals of your family or the group. This is why the mask helps you to hide your feelings, as it is hard to give up something we want for the good of all.

Sword Court Cards

Daughter of Swords
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Son of Swords
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Priestess of Swords
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Shaman of Swords
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The Daughter of Swords can be impulsive and wants things to happen right now. She has lots of good ideas, but is innocent and not yet sure how to bring them to fruition. This Daughter is a rebel, constantly busy and changing. Her hair blows in the winds of change, and she has her sword raised high and ready to fight if necessary. She can remain grounded however, as she is portrayed standing upon steady rocks. When someone wants something that requires more than their own power, they call to the Winds of Fate. The Daughter of Swords has called the North wind and it is rushing to meet her. She is a highly intelligent whirlwind. You will be involved in many activities and have much energy if you get this card in a reading. Just be careful not to make hasty decisions. Concentrate on where your thoughts and energies will do the most good.

The Son of Swords is the most mentally active of the Swords people, constantly thinking about many subjects at once. The Motherpeace artists are pretty rough on the Son of Swords, believing he tries to “slay the Goddess” by putting women down, rapes women, and does not respect his Mother. Although I have tried to stay true to the original meanings of this deck, my views on young men and men in general are not this negative. This is a smart and attractive man, who at worst may try to play mind games with people. His intelligence can be used in a positive way, and he is very good at science and math. He may seem impersonal, but people ruled by the mind tend to be that way. This card in a reading means you are looking at your problems in a rational way, which can be good or bad, depending on the issue. You need to watch your words to remember that words can wound someone deeply.

The Priestess of Swords is a beautiful woman standing alone on a clear, white vista of snow, where we can see her thoughts crystallize. She is guided by the wisdom of the snowy owl, and as she is ruled by her thoughts, is perceived as being cold. We see that some of the ice is shaded pink from the sunset though, so we know that this Priestess has emotions that she does not want to show. Her mind is critical, but although she is stern, she is also reasonable and clear-headed. The gold axe she rests upon keeps her in touch with the Earth. Her white coat is made from Polar bear fur, linking her to Ursa Major, showing the ancient power of the female group who knew about stars and the turning of the zodiac wheel. The Priestess of Swords is a writer and speaker. Her owl goes on Shamanic flights. When you see this card you know to try to solve your issue through your intellect. You may feel “out in the cold” and have to get in touch with your feelings more.

The Shaman of Swords represents intellect, clarity of thought and abstract thought. This image is a powerful one, showing moving thoughts that are quick and changing, in brilliant colors. This is a mind that is willing to go places a more traditional thinker would not go. This Shaman takes responsibility for her thoughts. She symbolizes all Shamans and is pictured with a ladder to symbolize her steps up into the Shamanic flights she is capable of going on. There is a kite at the top of the ladder, showing how most Swords people are more at home “in the air” or in their minds. There is also a flower with four petals to represent the four directions of the winds and the four elements. The point of union is the fifth, or ether, the element of spirit which cannot be seen. When you get this card in a reading, speak your truth and do not hold it back. Share your visions, hopes and dreams. The energy of your thoughts is so strong you will not be able to keep them to yourself. Be gentle with others though, do not speak your truth to hurt anyone.

Times have changed since the Motherpeace Tarot was created, and men and women have come a long way in their relationships with each other since the 1970’s. Unfortunately, we have not put an end to war, as too many people profit and gain from it, usually the rich minority. We also fail to care for our beautiful planet Earth as we should as faithful Stewards of it. But there is still time to change, and humans do have an amazing capacity to adapt to changing situations. Vicki Noble and Karen Vogel left us a wonderful blueprint of what life was like at the time they wrote this book and created the lovely artwork for this round and different tarot deck, and it is still very relevant today. Because the cards are round, you do not read them as only upright or reversed as in a traditional deck. Those two positions are still valid. But if the card is tilted toward the left, the card's meaning is just beginning to manifest in the person, or they are only beginning to feel the card’s energies. When the card leans to the right, the energies are being fully acted upon, perhaps needing to be toned down a little bit. Most tarot card readers have more than one deck, and this one is a must have for your collection. As it approaches life from a heart and emotionally centered point of view, one can gain much perspective from it as a tarot reader. Each card is a work of art in itself, and it is worth it to buy the deck just to admire the lovely pictures, to enjoy them or to meditate with them.

© 2011 Jean Bakula

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Jean Bakula 2 years ago from New Jersey Author

Hello Glorymiller,

Thank you so much for reading my work. It's an old tarot deck, and from the response I've gotten, apparently a lot of people never heard of it. It's fun to read from different tarot decks, you get a new perspective on some of the cards. Take care.

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Glorymiller 2 years ago from USA

Lots of great info in this article, I found it very interesting.

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Jean Bakula 3 years ago from New Jersey Author

Gracias, kenia

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Jean Bakula 3 years ago from New Jersey Author

Thank you for your kindness and your visit to my hub, Vivian!

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Vivian-tmt-hnp 3 years ago from USA.

Thursday 6 June 2013

So interesting is your writing. Thanks a lot.


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Jean Bakula 3 years ago from New Jersey Author

Hi Melissa,

Not all Major Arcana cards in the MP deck are dedicated to a Major Arcana card. If one is designated to it, I don't know it. So if any readers can answer, please do. Are you sure you don't mean the Wheel of Fortune card, number 10? That one begins in the middle of the left side, at the ascendant. The figure standing in red begins Aries, the Bull in grey next and below it is Taurus, and so on around the Wheel. Cancer on the 4th house shows the woman's stomach and breasts. The crayfish on the 8th house symbolizes Scorpio. The pictures are not very clearly drawn, and I have the large deck out here. If you find an answer, please come back and let me know! The deck only comes with a small orange book with basic definitions, and is hard to read, since you have to decide on your own how little or much the card is affecting the reading based on the degree of the circle that falls where it does. Vicki Nobel wrote a better interpretation book, Motherpeace, a way to the Goddess through Myth, Art, and Tarot, I have it listed in my Amazon capsule. It's much more informative. Take care.

Melissa 3 years ago

Does anyone know which sign is which in the world card of motherpeace?

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Jean Bakula 3 years ago from New Jersey Author

Hello Sue,

I'm glad you enjoyed it. I actually was not familiar with this deck either since it was from the 1970s and I didn't read Tarot back then. I became so fascinated with it that is why I reviewed it here! I also write a Tarot Card of the Week piece on, where I often compare the same card from two different decks--though I've become partial to this one! Thanks for commenting and drop by the blog if you have time.

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Sue Bailey 3 years ago from South Yorkshire, UK

Never seen a round deck before. The cards are beautiful. This is a very comprehensive hub, packed full of information. Thanks. Voted up

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Jean Bakula 3 years ago from New Jersey Author

Hi Gwenny,

I "discovered" the Motherpeace deck about 5 years ago, and was fascinated with it. I wrote these hubs when I was not very experienced with online writing, and they were an enormous thorn in my side! Many commented that they were too long (many of our readers have short attention spans). But they have remained at the top of my favorite and most read hubs list. I also write a Tarot Card of the Week piece on my blog,, and often compare a Rider-Waite card with a Motherpeace card, if you are interested in paying me a visit there. Take care and thanks for your kindness.

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GwennyOh 3 years ago from LaLa Land

Great article Jean. Keep up the good work, I will be back for more!

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Jean Bakula 4 years ago from New Jersey Author

I have mixed feelings about phone or online readings. People do them, but I feel as a reader I want a live person in front of me shuffling the cards. It's great I recalled a lot about astrology and it went over well here. But too many people are asking me to do charts, and I haven't done any for years, except to update transits for family and close friends. I helped a few people, but one person in particular was saying how much people charge, and isn't it ridiculous? I told her no, all the classes and workshops cost money and time, and to build my library of all the necessary books I learned from and use, it was hundreds of dollars alone. Then I realized some aren't even on HP, I guess they are astrology junkies who found me on Google. Still issues with computer, sometimes I can't get on, and the repairman has been awol all week. People can go to any New Age store and just buy the computerized charts. They are accurate and good, just no personal touch. Talk soon.

PWalker281 4 years ago

I have a good friend who knows astrology and people kept asking her to do charts that she really didn't want to do. So she thought if she charged an outrageous amount ($200+), people would stop asking her. Didn't work; people continued to ask her to do them :-).

Setting up my own tarot card reading website is something to consider. It's not something I would do from HP. So many things on my plate. I have to decide what's going to be the most lucrative and the most enjoyable and focus on those. Otherwise, I won't get anything done :-).

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Jean Bakula 4 years ago from New Jersey Author

I've been told my hubs are too long, but well written. The people who advised me who I trust say to just write a short teaser, keep it to the 400-500 words, and then say something like, "for more info visit my blog @ I am beginning to look at hubs of more successful people, and see they really have short sentences and short hubs, but lots of links to other stuff. I've been told to shorten my work, leave enough to interest people, and then do as above. I wrote a few articles on Helium, but you don't have the freedom like HP. One picture and they have weird topics. I wrote two nice pieces, one about the history of Rider Waite Tarot, and one on the Kabbalah, and now they have rights to them for a year. Plus you have to compete with people to make $1.00. Not kidding, take a look. Tarot readings online may be good. I like tarot better than astrology, that was from my past, it's just easy to write about it. Too many people are asking me to do their charts, and even asking too many questions on my hubs. If you write a few tarot deck things, you are knowledgeable, and the online readings may be good. Maybe you should buy a domain name like I did at, and steer people to that for your readings. It's only $10.99, and someone I trust is helping me. Why give your money to HP?

PWalker281 4 years ago

I have yet to find a way to write on sites like HP and make good money doing it other than build up a portfolio of articles, and that takes time. The people who make decent money here have been members for at least 4 years and have hundreds of hubs published.

But I agree, don't put all your eggs in one basket. My problem is that I tend to spread myself too thin (that darn Gemini Moon) and get scattered and ineffective as a result. I'm trying to focus on a maximum of three things, but other than HubPages, I'm still trying to decide what the other two are. Well there's my crochet blog but I have to get a whole lot more page views there but I don't post enough (sigh). Also thought about doing tarot readings online. A hubber wrote about how to post an ad for an email reading on eBay. I might look at that again. Decisions, decisions ...

Hope you're feeling better soon.

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Jean Bakula 4 years ago from New Jersey Author

I think you can do fine word wise, some of our "chats" are probably a few hundred words! It takes me several hours to write a hub, and at least 2 to get it on here, do the Amazon, find pictures, and get it the way I want. Maybe more computery types are faster. I do love it here, but I'm putting too much time in to make what I make. Everyone says don't put all your eggs in one basket. I'm pondering. My husband and I have been taking Metaphysics courses, and I want to write about Atlantis and Lemuria. I've had a stomach virus, and have only been writing to hubbers!

PWalker281 4 years ago

I don't know if it was Panda related, but right after Labor Day, my page views took a nose dive and stayed at almost zero for 3 weeks. In the fourth week they started to rise and doubled. So I'm seeing a slow and steady increase in page views.

I got a response similar to your emergency preparedness hub when I wrote one about the movie, Avatar, right after it came out. I got a burst of views and so many comments I could barely keep up with them. But as time passed, the views tapered off. I still get a few now and then but nothing like when it was first published. Those "current events" topics are good for a quick burst of page views, but you've got to write hubs on "evergreen" topics to have staying power.

I'm just now starting to pay attention to titles. I think SEO is important, but Google is also now favoring "high-quality," original content that's at least 400, preferably 500 words. So keyword research isn't enough. I never figured out how to use RSS feeds, and am pretty careful about what links I include. If you put your hubs into groups, then HP automatically adds links to hubs in the same group at the end of the hub.

I don't know how people write 30 hubs in 30 days either. It takes me a minimum of two days to write and publish a hub and spend about three to four hours each day. I tend to be long-winded (I guess 'thorough' would be a better word), so the hubs I've been writing recently are at least 1,000 words. Part 5 in the tarot card series is over 2,000 words.

I'm here for the long haul. Yes, they do change their content guidelines, but I haven't been too heavily impacted by the changes. I did have to take my "comment banner" off all of my hubs, but I only have 55, so it wasn't a big deal.

I haven't seen any site that pays the way the Ad Program does - per impression instead of per click. So I'll continue to write what I'm passionate about and do some keyword research on the back end.

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Jean Bakula 4 years ago from New Jersey Author

When I had been writing for 5 months is when the PANDA came about, everyone's stuff plunged, and it never recovered. Lots of people gave me advice, but not all of it was good. Several people told me I wrote well and asked how I was doing money wise, and I admitted I didn't get the SEO stuff. If all the people on here write according to the same SEO, it's too boring, and won't work. Write your article first. Then be careful how you title it. People say they change them all the time, but it will always be on Google with the original title, unless you take it down. I have instructions somewhere how to do that, but don't know where. The best advice I got was to look for titles that at least between 2,500 and 7,500 searched for. But less than about 25,000. If 100,000 people searched for it, they will pass yours up. I mostly write what I want, and with Astrology, the title is what it is. The only SEO part for me was say, "Capricorn Moon" and I learned to title it "Capricorn Moon Sign People." If you don't do astrology, you don't know the moon or other planets are involved, or that people actually have those positions. From reading the forums, people are saying SEO is getting less important. Be careful about links and RSS feeds. I used lots of RSS feeds, so I could link a few moonsign hubs under the sunsign hubs. But then one day, all of my feeds were taken off! It left big gaps in my hubs, and took me all day to fix. Don't mix topics, the link must relate to your hub. That's why I don't know if I want to write too much more on HP. They keep changing the rules, and then it's too hard to fix so many hubs. Some people have around 500. I've adding to the 100, and taking down 1 poorly viewed one for each new one I write. But I write for hours some days, and that's just not enough money. I have a chronic back problem, and I'm home, so I think I am going to try a few new sites. I'll keep what I have here, and want to keep in touch with the people. HP has good people. But when I began I was writing 3 hubs a week. I was up until 3AM. I don't know how people do those 30 hub in 30 days hubs, and many do them at work if they have internet access! I promise I'll think of good decks, I read out of a New Age shop, and my friend has one example of each deck hanging so customers can view them before they buy. She'll know the newest, and I know you a little and realize you are looking for a more mature audience who likes Metaphysical stuff. The only good SEO hit I got was in Oct. I live in NJ, and the snow took out our power for 6 days. It was awful! But I wrote what we needed to be prepared if it happened again (and it will) and tried all variations of Emergency Weather Preparedness Plans. I got 600 views in 5 days! That never happened again, and it took me over an hour studying other titles with the same words, just in different order. Too boring.

PWalker281 4 years ago

Wow, a payout every other month. That's great! Right now, I'm doing a payout every 2 months. I need to write some more hubs or do some backlinking to get more traffic to the ones I've already written to get to where you are.

It took me over a year to learn the little bit I now know about SEO. But I think it has helped get some of my hubs ranked high in the SERPs (search engine results pages), so I continue to do it, although it's typically AFTER I've written a hub. A lot of people do keyword research first to find the good keywords, then write articles around them. I can't write like that. I typically write when an idea pops into my head; fortunately, that happens often enough to keep me busy.

I gave my daughter (who is really into paranormal romance novels that feature vampires) a vampire tarot deck for Christmas ... or maybe it was a birthday. It's called The Vampire Tarot and as I look at it again, it's kinda creepy :-). I've written deck reviews before (back in the early 2000s); may even have an article laying around somewhere about how to write a good one. I may give this one a go and see what I can come up with.

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Jean Bakula 4 years ago from New Jersey Author

Hi again,

It took me almost a year of being on here to find that list, I'm not too computer literate! I think the tarot decks are a good idea, but am not sure which is better. I'm not good at SEO, I only make a payout every other month. I will think about tarot decks though. Vampires are big with the younger women now, because of all that Twilight stuff, but I don't know if it would bore you. Fairies are popular too. We'll think about it.

PWalker281 4 years ago

Cool! I found the list of topics that you told me about. Don't know why I haven't paid attention to that before. I see our tarot hubs are on the first page to the "tarot card" topics.

Thanks again for suggesting doing deck reviews. I'm going to have to do some keyword research though to see if there's a demand for it outside HP. I'm sure there is, but I want to use the best keywords (high search volume, low competition) for the decks I choose to review.

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Jean Bakula 4 years ago from New Jersey Author

Thank you so much! I was hurting for hub ideas at the time, and wasn't sure how this deck would be perceived, there are alot of very conservative Christians on this site. I never saw the deck before. I read tarot out of a local store, and the owner has all the decks hanging so the customers can see the cards. I was intrigued and worked with it all last summer, as I wrote the hubs. I love it too!

PWalker281 4 years ago

Boy does this hub and the images it contains bring back memories! I used to use this deck exclusively in the 80s and 90s because of its multicultural and matriarchal perspective. You've done an excellent job of putting the cards in a historical and cultural context that helps readers understand the forces at work when Noble and Vogel created it.

Rated up, useful, and (very) interesting!

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Jean Bakula 5 years ago from New Jersey Author


That's a great way to learn. It's a hard deck, writing these pieces helped me get them more fixed in my mind. Since you do have psychic ability, if you think something has a different meaning, or get a certain feeling about a card that reads different in my hub, or in a book, go with your gut feelings. They are never wrong.

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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south

Very interesting article. I think i will have to print out these hubs to refer to them as i learn.

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Jean Bakula 5 years ago from New Jersey Author

Thanks for commenting AngelaKaelin and htodd! I hope you enjoyed Motherpeace, it's one of a kind!

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htodd 5 years ago from United States

Great post,Thanks

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AngelaKaelin 5 years ago from New York

Interesting! As far as I'm aware this is the only round deck in existence. I used have a metaphysical bookstore and people would come in asking for a particular round deck - always this one. Great job!

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Jean Bakula 5 years ago from New Jersey Author

Thanks for visiting, Kimmie. I found out about Motherpeace about 6 months ago, and have been fascinated with it ever since. I love the emotional and heart centered readings that come from it!

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Kimmie Kingsley 5 years ago from Petaluma, California

This is my all time favorite deck!

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